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Tar Elenion · 04-30-2001, 08:57 PM

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Re: Mithladan

I am not sure that I would say he was 'changed' into an Elf.
JRRT says that 'as an unique exception he was (supposedly) granted the Elvish limited immortality' (paraphrased from Letter 153). Of course that could be taken as just semantics.
You are precisely correct when you say that it is beyond the power of the Valar to change the Gift Eru gave to Men. In Letter 153 JRRT says this and then says that the 'cases of Luthien and Tuor and the position of their descendants was the result of a direct act of God'. Eru granted Tuor 'immortality', not the Valar.

Tar-Elenion--------------------- I will come with Fire and Sword, and put your cities to the Torch, your men to the Blade, your women and children in Chains</p>

04-30-2001, 08:57 PM	#18
Tar Elenion Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2000 Posts: 369	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haunting Spirit Posts: 100</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Mithladan I am not sure that I would say he was 'changed' into an Elf. JRRT says that 'as an unique exception he was (supposedly) granted the Elvish limited immortality' (paraphrased from Letter 153). Of course that could be taken as just semantics. You are precisely correct when you say that it is beyond the power of the Valar to change the Gift Eru gave to Men. In Letter 153 JRRT says this and then says that the 'cases of Luthien and Tuor and the position of their descendants was the result of a direct act of God'. Eru granted Tuor 'immortality', not the Valar. Tar-Elenion--------------------- I will come with Fire and Sword, and put your cities to the Torch, your men to the Blade, your women and children in Chains</p> __________________ Tar-Elenion