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Old 11-16-2005, 12:59 PM   #1
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Erm.... I don't have a copy of the Letters, and to get one involves going to the library, hoping it's in, and then taking it out... It would be a bit more simpler if the passage and/or the whole letter could be quoted here...

I have a theory here, but I really don't want to air it without reading the passage in case I'm entirely off-base.
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Old 11-16-2005, 01:25 PM   #2
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Eru doesn't really appear in LotR -- he was a creation of the "later" Tolkien
This simply isn't true. Eru/Iluvatar existed as early as about 1920, when Tolkien wrote the first version of "The Music of the Ainur". It's true that the final version of the Ainulindale was not written until the 1950s, but the story was not much changed in its essentials (certainly far less than many other parts of the Legendarium).

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"Or are you saying in the context of LotR alone?" -- what other context is relevant here? The question as posed is whether or not Gandalf would have taken the Ring; such a situation exists only in the context of LotR.
The other context that may be relevant is that of LotR + the rest of the Legendarium.
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Old 11-16-2005, 01:53 PM   #3
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It would be a bit more simpler if the passage and/or the whole letter could be quoted here
Simpler for you, not us.

What you are supposed to do is proceed out from your place of residence or wage slavery (whichever the case may be at the moment) and go forth to the nearest outlet of some multi-tentacled corporate monstrosity of a book purveyor, or (better and better) a locally owned version of the same, and purchase yourself a copy of said Letters for your enlightened reading pleasure. No Tolkien library can be complete without it.

Such silly purchases as food and drink pale in comparison with the need to own Letters.

(Unless you are like me and blow the vast majority of your lucre on video games...that is perfectly legitimate. )
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Old 11-16-2005, 04:49 PM   #4
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Further to Aiwendil's point re: Eru, in Tolkien & the Great War John Garth sets out the state of the mythology at the time Tolkien went to war (June 1916)

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Enu (sic), whom men refer to as Illuvatar, the Heavenly Father, created the world & dwells outside it. But within the world dwell the 'pagan gods' or ainur, who, with their attendants, here are called the Valar or 'happy folk' (in the original sense of 'blessed with good fortune').
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:20 PM   #5
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What you are supposed to do is proceed out from your place of residence or wage slavery (whichever the case may be at the moment) and go forth to the nearest outlet of some multi-tentacled corporate monstrosity of a book purveyor, or (better and better) a locally owned version of the same, and purchase yourself a copy of said Letters for your enlightened reading pleasure. No Tolkien library can be complete without it.
I quite agree, and were I able to do so, I most certainly would. However, Alberta is most definitely a literary wasteland in that I have not once, not ONCE seen the Letters available for sale. Had I done so, I would immediately buy it, having read it (borrowed) enough times to appreciate its value and to thoroughly enjoy myself.

However, I know of nowhere within a reasonable (or even an unreasonable) distance where I can acquire it.

In the meantime, this is not the topic at hand, and there is no point in getting sent to the spice mines of Kessel by the Skwerls.
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Old 11-16-2005, 09:40 PM   #6
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