Tol-in-Gaurhoth XIII: Enter Shamville - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

tar-ancalime · 11-10-2005, 07:24 PM

++ Wayne

I really think we have to take Wilwa's claim at face value. Believe her, don't believe her, think what you like; we'll know soon enough, and it makes sense for us to act as though she's telling the truth.

Here's why:

She needs to reveal her dreams to us. Having stated that she dreamed of innocents, even if she's lying she'll produce two known innocents (one already being Firefoot, of course) to bolster her credibility. This information, whatever its provenance, is immensely useful to us.

(The opposite possibility, that wilwa is herself a wolf and that the "innocents" she'll produce for us are her comrades-in-paws, is frightening but there isn't really anything we can do about it. And as I mentioned above, we'll know soon enough. Lynching Wayne will tell us plenty.)

But if Wilwa really is the Seer, we are in a very good position indeed: we can stop venting our collective spleens on whomever she has already dreamed of, we pick off a wolf tonight, and (presuming the Ranger's protection) we get at least one more dream.

All three Gifteds can profit from the information Wilwa can give us: the Ranger can play peek-a-boo with the wolves for at least a few days among the three known innocents, the Seer (wilwa) gets protected long enough to dream one more time, and the Hunter has his/her pool of potential targets narrowed considerably.

Even if we're totally convinced wilwa is lying, we've got to behave as though she really is the Seer. The truth will out, and we will have bought the real Seer precious time.

I feel very strongly that even debating wilwa's veracity is beside the point. No matter who or what she really is, it can only help us to take her advice for at least one DAY and lynch Wayne.

I suggest we follow Firefoot's lead, table this issue, and spend the rest of the DAY discussing the other suspect.

11-10-2005, 07:24 PM	#11
tar-ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: abaft the beam Posts: 303	++ Wayne I really think we have to take Wilwa's claim at face value. Believe her, don't believe her, think what you like; we'll know soon enough, and it makes sense for us to act as though she's telling the truth. Here's why: She needs to reveal her dreams to us. Having stated that she dreamed of innocents, even if she's lying she'll produce two known innocents (one already being Firefoot, of course) to bolster her credibility. This information, whatever its provenance, is immensely useful to us. (The opposite possibility, that wilwa is herself a wolf and that the "innocents" she'll produce for us are her comrades-in-paws, is frightening but there isn't really anything we can do about it. And as I mentioned above, we'll know soon enough. Lynching Wayne will tell us plenty.) But if Wilwa really is the Seer, we are in a very good position indeed: we can stop venting our collective spleens on whomever she has already dreamed of, we pick off a wolf tonight, and (presuming the Ranger's protection) we get at least one more dream. All three Gifteds can profit from the information Wilwa can give us: the Ranger can play peek-a-boo with the wolves for at least a few days among the three known innocents, the Seer (wilwa) gets protected long enough to dream one more time, and the Hunter has his/her pool of potential targets narrowed considerably. Even if we're totally convinced wilwa is lying, we've got to behave as though she really is the Seer. The truth will out, and we will have bought the real Seer precious time. I feel very strongly that even debating wilwa's veracity is beside the point. No matter who or what she really is, it can only help us to take her advice for at least one DAY and lynch Wayne. I suggest we follow Firefoot's lead, table this issue, and spend the rest of the DAY discussing the other suspect. __________________ Having fun wolfing it to the bitter end, I see, gaur-ancalime (lmp, ww13)