Tol-in-Gaurhoth XIII: Enter Shamville

[Kath]

Finally I have enough time to make a proper post!

Well now looking at Eonwe I don't really understand why Glirdan voted for her. She mostly comments in answer to other people, and twice about the problem of day 1 being slow.

There is this comment:

well, as they just had 24 hours to pm about stratgy, either they are very lazy, or the answer is no.

In response to Lalaith possibly setting out a wolvish plan. It's quite jokey but I suppose it could be taken as a defence.

Then there is this:

we could pick an innocent to lead us, which would yeild two resolts:

1) lynching of a wolf. that wold be good and our leader would be praised.
2) lynchin of an innocent. that would be bad, not only because we killed an innocent, but because we now cast suspicion on yet annother innocent. not to mention we wouldn't get anything as way of a trail.

or we could pick a wolf to lead us, also yeilding two results:

1) the wolf chooses to lynch a wolf. that is good and bad. we kill a wolf, but clear a wolf as well.
2) he lynches an innocent. good because we would suspet him.

all in all, i think it could be a worthy plan. but we should use it later on. and don't ellect me as leader, either.

In response to LMP's plan. This seems to me a fair analysis of the paths such a plan could take and she came up with the same final opinion as me, using it later. And I do believe she posted that long before me so the similarity can't make me think her guilty either.

She then has to repeat all these points because someone questions her about it, either Glirdan or LMP I haven't quite been able to work out which. In fact she repeats it almost exactly word for word without any protestations of unfair treatment or loud claims of innocence, which makes me feel that she is innocent.

So overall I really do not understand Glirdan's vote for her unless it was completely random as he said - twice. And the repetition there made me pause.

Eonwe is because he backed up Lmp's idea so this could be a misguided innocent OR a Wolf agreeing with a fellow Wolf's plan OR a Wolf agreeing with an innocent's plan which would almost insure a Wolves vistory.

Was the reasoning but Eonwe explained that she wasn't backing up this plan and having seen her posts I disagree that she was in full support.

Still, I don't know if Glirdan's (in my opinion) unsusbstantiated vote should then cast suspicion on him. So, let's have a look at everyone else.

Anguirel - Some extremely bad jokes at the beginning but I suppose we can't lynch just for that! Then an almost threat, which I am inclined to take as an in-character comment though it did make me think a bit. Then, finally, he gets more serious and gives reasons why LMP's plan to elect a leader would be unhelpful,which I agree with. Names his suspects with reasons and explains why he is either more or less suspicious of various people, which will help for future reference. Seems to be casting doubt on the strangely widefelt perception that LMP is an innocent, which I think is a good idea. Then suspects me, Menel, Firefoot, Glirdan and Celuien - again with reasons and a sort of decision that Celuien is the one he is most worried about. Then, after all these lists and suggestions, he decides to (probably) vote for Wayne based on his unhelpfulness so far - a good point. Definitely an odd one that bears watching.

Bergil - Did him earlier. Couldn't find anything to be suspicious of or to think him innocent because he has barely posted - irritating but not suspicious.

Celuien - Begins with seemingly no knowledge about anyone and just provides a quick list of what everyone has said. Opposes LMP's plan with reasoning. Makes lists of who she does and doesn't suspect, but there is no reasoning behind why she has picked some of the ones she sees as innocent which I would like. And really that's about it. She has posted quite often but only the two or three most recent ones have contained anything of use.

Eonwe - Already did. Could find nothing suspicious - but am now fearing she is in fact a he.

Firefoot - Requests that those who talk make substantial posts not just chat in order to catch out the wolves. Completely disagrees with LMP's plan, finding no use in it at all. Appears to be in a rush and I think that's real because it's rare for her not to make lists and put real reasons and evidence behind her words. Though she has been strangely uninvolved I will give that the benefit of the doubt until she can explain.

Hmm, I'll have to wait to do the others. Must go learn.