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Tuor in Gondolin · 11-06-2005, 12:15 PM

+ + Glorfindel seems the most logical. Some other way of dispatching
a Balrog can be envisioned, say, an attack by the Eagles putting the
Balrog offbalance and falling off a cliff.

Anguirel · 11-06-2005, 12:24 PM

Without Manwe, the Eagles aren't coming...

I say Idril. Her escape route is already built for the others, and I wish to be revenged on her for her prissy, disdainful treatment of Maeglin. Besides, with Idril gone Glorfindel, who I made fall in love with her if you recall, will have no incentive to turn traitor.

++IDRIL

The 1,000 Reader · 11-06-2005, 01:23 PM

++Arien. An everlasting darkness will aid Morgoth. Why, you ask? Well, the reason is........

........it's all about the special effects.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-06-2005, 03:44 PM

This is a hard decision to make because the fall of Gondolin will happen no mather what. . .

It seems that our quest is to get even more people killed or lessen the loss of Morgoth's forces.

I will go with the last one and the thing that would insure a even more devestating victory is too. . . . Get rid of Arien. This way Gondolin will have even shorter time to muster their defense in and therfor they will not be abel to kill as many Balrogs/Orcs/whatever.

++Arien

Anguirel · 11-06-2005, 03:49 PM

Actually, I may decide to keep Gondolin standing if your choice is especially flimsy. Don't rule out the possibility!

arcticstorm · 11-06-2005, 03:55 PM

I would like to point out something about Glorfindel. He loves Idril and is jealous of Tuor, he will more than likely be the one to betray its location to Morgoth.

Anguirel · 11-06-2005, 04:00 PM

Or is that just what I want you to think?

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-06-2005, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

This is a hard decision to make because the fall of Gondolin will happen no mather what. . .

OK, forget this quote it did not happen!

What I really wrote was : This is a hard decision to make because it is highly unlikely that Gondolin will not fall, unless we forget our objective and vote off Morgoth or Mandos, Doom of

Gothmog · 11-06-2005, 04:32 PM

I don't think it matters much what who we vote for of the people in Gondolin. They'll probably die anyway. Like in Nargothrond, did it matter who died from the eviction? No, Ang will make sure every elf in Gondolin in slaughtered, believe me!

But, as Glorfindel and the late Ecthelion are two favourites of mine, I'll vote

++Arien

To give Glorfindel a chance to survive. If he's not stupid enough to go and challenge one of those noble and beautiful, misunderstood creatures called Balrogs. I mean, they have to defend themselves, don't they? If some hot headed young elf lord startes a fight, off course they're going to use some self-defence! Don't blame them!

The darkness will help the creatures of Morgoth by concealing them, demoralize the defenders and create chaos when the battle begin. But at the same time I hope it will conceal some refugees fleeing the destruction. After all, our task is the fall of Gondolin, not total devastation.

And the score so far: (I think)
Idril---------1
Glorfindel----2
Arien--------3

Celuien · 11-06-2005, 04:42 PM

Hmm. Especially flimsy...

We could vote off Sauron. I've suspected for some time that Sauron frequently visited Gondolin in disguise as a traveling salesman by the name of Wili Lomion. He got in by pretending to be the real Lomion, but then sold vinyl siding. Once the sample case came out, though, he was invariably evicted. He never gave away the location before since he always hoped he could make a great sale and earn a big commission. Now that the real Lomion is dead, this disguise won't work anymore, so if our traveling salesman really is Sauron, he has no incentive to keep Gondolin's location secret from Morgoth.

Does anyone else share this suspicion? If not, I'll either vote for Glorfindel or join any upcoming wacky theories to get rid of Morgoth or Mandos, Doom of.

arcticstorm · 11-06-2005, 08:47 PM

We need to keep Earendil alive. SO hmm, this is a tough vote, because Melkor does not know where Godolin is yet, he doesn't even have a clue, so i cannot see it being betrayed and I see know way for it to fall yet. So what I will do is vote for ++Glorfindel based on Angmod's thing about them not being betrayed by Glorfindel and his Balrog fighting, he would be a good choice.

11-06-2005, 12:15 PM	#1
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	+ + Glorfindel seems the most logical. Some other way of dispatching a Balrog can be envisioned, say, an attack by the Eagles putting the Balrog offbalance and falling off a cliff. __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

11-06-2005, 12:24 PM	#2
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Without Manwe, the Eagles aren't coming... I say Idril. Her escape route is already built for the others, and I wish to be revenged on her for her prissy, disdainful treatment of Maeglin. Besides, with Idril gone Glorfindel, who I made fall in love with her if you recall, will have no incentive to turn traitor. ++IDRIL __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

11-06-2005, 01:23 PM	#3
The 1,000 Reader Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: I don't know. Eastern ME doesn't have maps. Posts: 527	++Arien. An everlasting darkness will aid Morgoth. Why, you ask? Well, the reason is........ ........it's all about the special effects. __________________ "And forth went Morgoth, and he was halted by the elves. Then went Sauron, who was stopped by a dog and then aged men. Finally, there came the Witch-King, who destroyed Arnor, but nobody seems to remember that." -A History of Villains

11-06-2005, 03:49 PM	#5
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Actually, I may decide to keep Gondolin standing if your choice is especially flimsy. Don't rule out the possibility! __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

11-06-2005, 04:00 PM	#7
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Or is that just what I want you to think? __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

11-06-2005, 03:55 PM	#6
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	I would like to point out something about Glorfindel. He loves Idril and is jealous of Tuor, he will more than likely be the one to betray its location to Morgoth.

11-06-2005, 04:32 PM	#9
Gothmog Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Where I lay my head is home Posts: 421	I don't think it matters much what who we vote for of the people in Gondolin. They'll probably die anyway. Like in Nargothrond, did it matter who died from the eviction? No, Ang will make sure every elf in Gondolin in slaughtered, believe me! But, as Glorfindel and the late Ecthelion are two favourites of mine, I'll vote ++Arien To give Glorfindel a chance to survive. If he's not stupid enough to go and challenge one of those noble and beautiful, misunderstood creatures called Balrogs. I mean, they have to defend themselves, don't they? If some hot headed young elf lord startes a fight, off course they're going to use some self-defence! Don't blame them! The darkness will help the creatures of Morgoth by concealing them, demoralize the defenders and create chaos when the battle begin. But at the same time I hope it will conceal some refugees fleeing the destruction. After all, our task is the fall of Gondolin, not total devastation. And the score so far: (I think) Idril---------1 Glorfindel----2 Arien--------3 __________________ Three switched witches watch three Swatch watch switches. Which switched witch watch which Swatch watch switch? He who breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom ~Lurker... Last edited by Gothmog; 11-06-2005 at 04:35 PM.

11-06-2005, 04:42 PM	#10
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	Hmm. Especially flimsy... We could vote off Sauron. I've suspected for some time that Sauron frequently visited Gondolin in disguise as a traveling salesman by the name of Wili Lomion. He got in by pretending to be the real Lomion, but then sold vinyl siding. Once the sample case came out, though, he was invariably evicted. He never gave away the location before since he always hoped he could make a great sale and earn a big commission. Now that the real Lomion is dead, this disguise won't work anymore, so if our traveling salesman really is Sauron, he has no incentive to keep Gondolin's location secret from Morgoth. Does anyone else share this suspicion? If not, I'll either vote for Glorfindel or join any upcoming wacky theories to get rid of Morgoth or Mandos, Doom of. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

11-06-2005, 08:47 PM	#11
arcticstorm Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN Posts: 464	We need to keep Earendil alive. SO hmm, this is a tough vote, because Melkor does not know where Godolin is yet, he doesn't even have a clue, so i cannot see it being betrayed and I see know way for it to fall yet. So what I will do is vote for ++Glorfindel based on Angmod's thing about them not being betrayed by Glorfindel and his Balrog fighting, he would be a good choice.