WWJ II: Welcome to Lower Tadfield. The Apocalypse has Now Begun.

[tar-ancalime]

My suspicions of Eonwe are growing as I continue to read over the posts from YesterDAY.

Eonwe tries to make it look like Kitanna led a crusade against Rune, when in fact Kitanna made all of her posts early in the DAY. She repeatedly asked for Rune to defend himself. Others who voted for Rune cited Kitanna's posts as influential to them, but I think that Rune's increasingly defensive rebuttals are more telling than Kitanna's original posts. He made all of his comments after Kitanna stopped posting. I don't even think all of Rune's comments were directed at Kitanna--I think he was speaking to the later voters who were still online.

Eonwe wrote:

i strongly discourage teh Rune Bandwagon. Kitanna, i don't think you really have much of a case.

and then:

my goodness, there just isn't much to go on. I don't have strong feelings on any of our candidates for the noose. Ill go with
++KITANNA
because i don't like the way she is gunning for Rune. Like i said, i don't think there is much of a case left.

I'd hardly call Kitanna's posts "gunning for Rune." Before settling on Rune, she put forth several theories, including some (wholly unfounded, of course!) suspicions of me.

I'm definitely not ready to vote yet, but here are my current feelings:

Eonwe: I'm quite suspicious of yesterDAY's posts
Wayne: a little suspicious, because his posts generally don't tell us much
THE Ka: I'm almost sure she's innocent
Sleepy Ranger: probably innocent (due to vote for Rune)
Wilwarin: probably innocent (due to vote for Rune)
Bergil: probably innocent (gut feeling)
Hiriel: not sure
Holbytlass and sotty: I don't have a strong feeling one way or the other

I look forward to reading some more comments and revising this list.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Wilwarin: probably innocent (due to vote for Rune)

She did vote at a point where it seemed that Rune would definately be the one getting lynched so I'm not sure about her. She could be innocent but I don't think so, she has been kinda quiet.

[Bergil]

I suspect WayneTheGoblin more then ever for 3 reasons. 1, the aforementioned non-vote. 2, I can't think of any sort of connection between him and poor Kiatanna. 3, I don't think anyone before me who really suspected him and he over-reacted to my vote, accusing me. draw your own conclusions, but I've already drawn mine.

[Holbytlass]

Day 1
Wilwarin-->Tar-Ancalime (tar-1)
Holby-->Glirdan (tar-1, glir-1)
SleepyRanger-->Glirdan (tar-1, glir-2)
Sotty-->Tar-ancalime (tar-2, glir-2)
Kittanna-->Sleepy Ranger (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1)
Eonwe-->Wilwarin (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1, wil-1)
Gurthang-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-2 sleep-1, wil-1, marc-1)
Bergil-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-2, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-2)
Wayne-->Marcolie (doesn't count)
Marcolie-->Glirdan (tar-2, glir-3, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-2)
Rune-->Marcolie (tar-2, glir-3, sleep-1, wil-1, marc-3)

no vote: Glirdan, Tar-ancolime, Hiriel, The Ka

Day 2
tar-ancalime: THE Ka (THE Ka, 1)
Kitanna: Rune (THE Ka, 1; Rune, 1)
THE Ka: Rune (Rune,2; THE Ka, 1)
Sleepy Ranger: Rune (Rune, 3; THE Ka, 1)
Wilwarin: Rune (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1)
Bergil: Wayne (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1)
Hiriel: tar-ancalime (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1)
sotty: Hiriel (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1; Hiriel, 1)
Holbytlass: Sleepy Ranger (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1; Hiriel, 1; Sleepy Ranger, 1)
Eonwe: Kitanna (Rune, 4; Kitanna, 1; five others, 1 each)
Rune: Kitanna (Rune, 4; Kitanna, 2; five others, 1 each)

no vote Wayne

VOTED FOR RUNE
The Ka: very interesting this time around, votes third when a vote is already against her. She votes Rune. Most people, wolf or innocent waits to the end to vote in case they have to save themselves. If she is innocent, she wouldn't know if Rune was a wolf or not, so her voting early says to me that if either she or Rune gets it, the other comes off looking innocent. High on suspect list.

Wilwarin:suspicious because of her voting placement, fourth for Rune. Definitely a position to bet on the high likelihood that he'll get it, comes of looking good for voting a wolf, but if someone else gets it, oh well.

Sleepy Ranger:suspicious also for voting placement.


I realize there are only 2 wolves left and I doubt both would vote Rune, out of these I find The Ka to be most suspicious.

OTHER VOTERS
Wayne: looking suspicious because of voting incorrectly, then not voting at all, as if he doesn't want a vote trail.



BTW, why is everyone talking of changing votes? They're NON-retractable, or does one mean changing the mind BEFORE voting?

Originally Posted by Tar

What does this tell us? Again, that Eonwe is either a bold wolf or an unfortunate innocent. That other than Rune, we as a village had no strong inclinations yesterDAY. That Wayne (again, correct me if I'm wrong) is the only villager to have no votes count at all for DAYS 1 and 2.

Which is maybe why Eonwe thought that Kittanna was gunning for Rune so strongly. We all hail Kittanna for nabbing a wolf especially since she wasn't the seer but it was still guesswork. I myself was suspicious of Rune then changed my mind, how wrong was I! Anyway, my point is that I think Eonwe is just getting set-up.


My brain is fried....got to check back later for a fresh look, to surmise:



SUSPICIOUS LIST
The Ka
Wane
Wilwarin
Sleepy Ranger


NOT SUSPICIOUS
Tar-Ancolime
Eonwe


The others will have to wait

[wilwarin538]

Wilwarin:suspicious because of her voting placement, fourth for Rune. Definitely a position to bet on the high likelihood that he'll get it, comes of looking good for voting a wolf, but if someone else gets it, oh well.

Actually there was 11 possible votes yesterday. I voted for Rune when there was 3-Rune 1-Ka. The votes could have easily gone another way.

Plus I did admited that I was bandwagoning.

I think I'm gong to stick with being the first to vote, I seem to be safer that way.

++WaynetheGoblin

[Eonwe]

well, i just got back from work...it was awesome, let me tell you.

right, as for my unfortunate insedent last Evening, it was just that. I totally didn't think rune was a wolf. so i defended him. that's it. but try to put yourself in a wolve's position: by the time i got on, rune had four votes. there was some chance of someone else getting five votes, but not much. so if i was a wolf, i would have killed him. plain as that.

speaking of wolves voteing, im pretty darn sure (ok im possitive) that there is a wolf in the voting for rune. im thinking 3rd or 4th, because you wouldn't vote second for a wolf, there would be too much chance that it would kill him. you would only want to vote for a fellow wolf when it is pretty plain that he is already dead. but i don't think it would be the last, taht would be too obvious. so im thinking third. whick happens to be sr, i believe.

ok not much else, im at a slight loss. im gonna have to vote before six, my time (EST) so be forewarned. that's all for now.

[sotty]

The people that are left and the level of my suspicions on them

Hiriel – High

As I said yesterday, Hiriel waiting until the last moment to vote is very suspicious to me. I made the point that it leaves her with a lot of options as to where her vote should go

Originally Posted by ”Hiriel”

Eek. Couldn't get as much time as I thought. Hopefully, I'll get more time to disect the rest of what's gone on, but I might just have to post a quick vote in the nick of time.

In the nick of time? Hoping to save Rune perhaps? In this post (105) she also throws more suspicions onto Tar who I believe at the moment anyway, is innocent. She also examines Rune but he already had 3 votes on him and his fate was pretty much sealed

Originally Posted by ”Hiriel”

I'll be very interested to see what happens tonight and who Rune turns out to be, and by then I should have some good theories about who has a hairy complex

I'd love to hear them Hiriel because right now you are still high on my list.

Bergil – High

Originally Posted by ”Bergil”

Ghurthang, Sleepy Ranger, and Rune have travelled more and may have been lost in the forest, but this proves nothing. also, I've had strange feelings ever since I've came here, but I'd always put it down to flows of chii, or having met some of the people here in a previous life.

This is his first post it was of very little substance and he throws suspicious towards three villagers, we know Ghurthang was an innocent but Rune was indeed a wolf. My opinion on Sleepy so far is a likely innocent so was Bergil trying to throws us of sent by saying he in fact pointed at a wolf?

Originally Posted by ”Bergil”

++Marcolie "DEATH" Laman

I don't suspect her in the least' but I must vote for someone.

Now he “randomly” votes an innocent in his next post. Both myself and Holbytlass have talked in thread about this and how it could be seen as a not so random and even wolfish. Bergil then claims he cross posted and decides to throw suspicions onto Wayne. Shifting our focus perhaps? He is making me nervous to say the least.


Eonwe – Medium to High

The points being made about Eonwe are quite interesting and he has moved up in my suspicions today

Originally Posted by ”Eonwe”

um i happen to agree with sr. what good is stabbing in the dark the whole game through. logic. tell me why. what is behind it all? that is what we need to see, cold hard logic. we won't get anywere without it. but there is a great derth of that Day one. so........

++willwa there is no logic and this is a completly random vote. i didn't even do the names in a hat trick...

This Eonwe first day vote in which he in fact contradicts himself in. One breath he's saying lets use cold hard logic and in the next he goes for a complete random vote. This is strange to me as even on the first day people managed to find some logic in voting (all be it the wrong kind). Then yesterday he stands up for Rune more aggressively than myself, so this is bound to draw peoples suspicions. I cannot jump on him for this though, because I did have similar doubts

WaynetheGoblin – Medium

I'm not sure about Wayne. His posts have started to annoy me slightly too but is that enough to assume he is a wolf? Not sure. I really did think he thought his vote counted on the first day, no real master plan behind that. So he could be like Rune hiding his vote in a “safe” place. The main reason I don't suspect him is because the people I do suspect (Bergil) are trying to gets us to look that way

Sleepy Ranger- low to medium

The only thing that bothered me about Sleepy was his lack of reasons when voting Glirdan on the first day. He has since cleared that up and is also another person on the Rune wagon and so in my eyes he is less suspicious right now.

Wilwarin538 – Low

For now I am willing to believe that she is a likely innocent. The only real suspicions people have of her is the band wagoning of Rune. She is low on my list because the only person to have voted for her is someone I suspect of being a wolf (Eonwe) and because she did in fact vote for Rune. There are arguments that she was the last vote on and could see no way to save Rune but I find this highly unlikely, for now.

Tar-ancalime, Holbytlass and THE Ka are all low on my list right now due to their posts being filled of helpful information and varying theories, but I could be completely wrong.

[Sleepy Ranger]

Since I am not feeling well and doubt I will be on later I will vote now.

++Bergil
This is going by Sotty's reasoning. My original plan was to vote for Wayne but Sotty's post has made me re-consider. If I am on later and any development has taken place in this matter I will retrace my vote but I don't think I'll be able to come on.

[Bergil]

I will not dignify your accusations with a rebuttal pointing out the obvous flaw. If you hadn't ruined your credibility, I could be brought to see Hiriel as a wolf.

[WaynetheGoblin]

vote

Well it seems that I have a vote. I am still suspicious of bergil.


++bergil


I will be gone for a littel. I think I voted right if not please tell me.

[sotty]

Originally Posted by Bergil

I will not dignify your accusations with a rebuttal pointing out the obvous flaw. If you hadn't ruined your credibility, I could be brought to see Hiriel as a wolf.

Please, please PLEASE point out this flaw. If I am wrong than I am wrong, I will have no problem admitting that. If you don't, this statement makes you MORE guilty in my eyes....