The Silmarillion Survivor

[Anguirel]

I suppose your comment just about counts as reasoning, Wayne...

A most original idea, Saucie. I think you'll find Melkor supports it...

I fear people are worn out by LOTR Survivor. The ratings for this first series are troublingly low! Come on, one and all, roll up, roll up...

[Lalaith]

Dear moderator, I'm not quite clear as to your wishes. Would you like us to propose eviction candidates immediately or did you intend us to invent some dramatic incidents first?

[Anguirel]

No, sorry, I should have made that clear. You just vote for contestants to leave, with reasoning, as normal. I'll then write up the results of your choice and how the challenges go.

IE, I get to do the creative writing, you do the politicking! Rather like a Werewolf game, ho ho...

Basically, Saucie's post is a model of what you should be doing...thinking about the challenge as well as about your own opinions, and deciding accordingly.

Have fun...

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by me

But it is always possible that her skills will be needed later on.

Just to add some further thoughts on that comment.

It seems to me that what Anguirel is presenting us with here is a series of "problems" which, in effect, need to be solved. So what we need to do is work through the problems (either in co-operation or - more likely - in a series of loose alliances and mutually antagonistic groups ) in order to come up with the best solution. My preminary reaction to the "problem" which Ang has set us today is that the obvious solution may not necessarily be the best one.

[arcticstorm]

If this is what we are intended to do, I agree with Sauce that ++Manwe 's feast seems to be the most dangerous thing to the trees.

[Lalaith]

++Olwe.
What good were the Teleri when it came to looking after or even caring about the Trees?

They recked little of seasons or times, and gave no thought to the cares of the Rulers of Arda, or the shadow that had fallen on Valinor, for it had not touched them, as yet.

I bet if you vox-popped any passing elf on the streets of Alqualonde, s/he wouldn't even be able to tell you the *name* of one of the Trees, let alone how to take care of them. The feckless Teleri have been encouraged in their blinkered, parochial and downright selfish attitude by their leader. He has no place on Survivor, where pulling together counts for everything.

[Anguirel]

Ungoliant:1
Manwe:1
Olwe:1

[The Saucepan Man]

While I agree with your reasoning, Lal, the contestants are bound to have a sea-based task at some point, so it might be worth keeping Olwe as the only representative of the Teleri tribe.

Manwe is a possibility, but what if one of the tasks involves aerial skills? His Eagles may come in useful.

It seems to me that we could happily lose one of the Noldor without compromising any future tasks. There would still be more than enough to tend to and guard the Trees. But which one ...

[Anguirel]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

While I agree with your reasoning, Lal, the contestants are bound to have a sea-based task at some point, so it might be worth keeping Olwe as the only representative of the Teleri tribe.

Once the game moves to Middle-earth, there'll be Sindarin Elf mariners. But at this stage the argument stands...

Myself, however, I think that we should target neither Teleri nor Noldor. Behold the Vanyar! They comb their hair and sing songs that are in any case inferior to Maglor's. Indis and Amarie are always disturbing Finwe and Finrod with their flirting, and Ingwe is so damnably superior. Silver (golden?) spoons in all of their mouths...

I'm leaning towards Amarie. Her playing hard to get is really depressing Finrod and putting him off his task...

[Eonwe]

well, well, i guess i will make my survivor debute.

Lets see, the first part is tended and watered properly. that would be yavanna's business, i believe. and the next, protected and free from vanals, would fall on orome and tulkas. so i propose that first off, we detail these three for 24/7 watch about the trees. then we can think of striking at the vanals themselves at our leisure.

as for the vanals, the obvious answer (as wyane put it) is get rid of the evil (aka melkor and ungoliant). but i ask you, what fun is an island with no Dark Lord to fight, eh? so manwe might be a good choise.

[Anguirel]

Show host's fair warning: if Melkor goes too early, you may find certain Valar suffer attacks of megalomania...