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Galorme · 07-29-2002, 03:13 PM

And that is, what they say, a rap. Or is it?

Tolkein once said that when he said that the Ringbearers passed into the west he meant it to be ambigous whether they became immortal, as did the elves, or whether it merely meant they died and found peace. But it is told by the elves in the Akallabéth that if mortals went to Valinor they would die out, much like "a moth that flies too close to the flame". So what actually happened to all the Ringbearers (and Gimli, though one would assume that Aule would grant them longer life as he created them). Did they live forever in the bliss of Valinor as did Huor (though he actually became an Elf), perhaps the Ringbeares, not belonging to the age of the men became 4 foot elves themselves? Or did they die out like the metaphorical moth too soon in the bliss of Eldamar?

07-29-2002, 03:13 PM	#3
Galorme Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London Posts: 337	And that is, what they say, a rap. Or is it? Tolkein once said that when he said that the Ringbearers passed into the west he meant it to be ambigous whether they became immortal, as did the elves, or whether it merely meant they died and found peace. But it is told by the elves in the Akallabéth that if mortals went to Valinor they would die out, much like "a moth that flies too close to the flame". So what actually happened to all the Ringbearers (and Gimli, though one would assume that Aule would grant them longer life as he created them). Did they live forever in the bliss of Valinor as did Huor (though he actually became an Elf), perhaps the Ringbeares, not belonging to the age of the men became 4 foot elves themselves? Or did they die out like the metaphorical moth too soon in the bliss of Eldamar? __________________ Utúlie'n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie'n aurë! The day has come! Behold people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!