LOTR Survivor

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

I regard any such activity as inappropriate.

There are those who like to play poker for the challenge of pitting their wits against others in the context of a level playing field. And there are those who like to play poker because they can win by stacking the cards in their favour. The problem, when they play together, is that the activities of the latter thoroughly eradicate the enjoyment of the former because there is no challenge when the playing field is uneven.

I therefore call on those who, like me, would not stoop to such depths to down tools and refuse to vote further until:

1. either all contestants who have been voted off as a result of such activity are reinstated or those who have never participated in such activity are given the opportunity to remove three contestants of their choosing; and

2. all further covert activity is banned.

In the meantime, the "get along gang" can get on with voting whoever they want off the Island with no resistance whatsoever and see how much fun that is.

SpM I would agrue that this is survivor though not poker, this is a place for alliance and dark and twisted plots where backstabbing and coersion exist.

[The Saucepan Man]

Originally Posted by mormegil

SpM I would agrue that this is survivor though not poker, this is a place for alliance and dark and twisted plots where backstabbing and coersion exist.

Er - that's for the contestants, not the audience, isn't it? Nevertheless, I have no problem with bluffs, deals and even broken deals, provided that it is all above board so that each of us knows where he or she stands.

[Folwren]

Originally posted by Mormegil:
Folwren, I am sorry if I have hurt you it was not my intent but as I explained our paths were beginning to diverge and I have not given away any secrets. I remember who you hold dear and will avoid that person or there are two people if I remember correctly. I left because I needed to venture out on my own. I was a little caterpillar who just transformed into a butterfly and I needed to fly on my own Folwren it's nothing personal...remember this is M-e Mirth

Of course. And I'm sure you're very kind and mean nothing serious at all. I can accept that. But I'm awful sensitive at times. Your targetting Faramir and then Eomer and helping those who I hold as an enemy in this game is kind of hard for me to take.

Understand, though, that on most other threads and especially after this game is over, I'll bet most alliances and grudges will be entirely forgotten on my part. So don't worry about it.

As for you, SpM...!

I regard any such activity as inappropriate.

I had just finished telling you that there hadn't been any of late.

There are those who like to play poker for the challenge of pitting their wits against others in the context of a level playing field. And there are those who like to play poker because they can win by stacking the cards in their favour. The problem, when they play together, is that the activities of the latter thoroughly eradicate the enjoyment of the former because there is no challenge when the playing field is uneven.

I therefore call on those who, like me, would not stoop to such depths to down tools and refuse to vote further until:

1. either all contestants who have been voted off as a result of such activity are reinstated or those who have never participated in such activity are given the opportunity to remove three contestants of their choosing; and

2. all further covert activity is banned.

In the meantime, the "get along gang" can get on with voting whoever they want off the Island with no resistance whatsoever and see how much fun that is.

Pitting their wits, as you will so call, against others doesn't have to do with 'starting a bandwagon', but rather having an organized, well though of plan before hand. It may be a different approach than you may take, but I have to say that I prefer mine much more. We at least put our brains into it, where as you...you will rely soley on the mass voting. I will remind you that mobs are easily swayed for the worse (or sometimes for the better) and only the low and less noble will use them to gain their own ends.

And as for not voting until those two things happen - ha! Better quit voting, and stay that way, because I'm not stopping.

-- Folwren

[Anguirel]

Saucie, you must be joking. Your terms might as well be the Mouth of Sauron's...

Unless Boromir specifically declares against it (and he earlier said that actual bribed-via-PM votes were fine, in a post I shall find and quote) I shall PM whoever I like, whenever I like, on whatever subject.

There are some things great men do that they prefer to go unnoticed. Much politics is cloak-and-dagger. This is not really Werewolf, and we should feel free to consult and forge mutually beneficial alliances.

If you wish to make good your offer, I bid you farewell and am gladdened that henceforth your mob shall be one vote poorer. Also, Saucie, though I do not doubt you've had no part in it, it is quite obvious that some of your cohorts have been PMing potential allies.

EDIT: Here it is

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Sorry Anguirel, it adds this survivor-like quality to the thread. Bribes, alliances, betrayals and back-stabbings...etc,. Now we even have our own parties forming, makes for an intriguing game. I'm just glad a computer and 1,000 of miles seperate both sides. Guess you'll have to start your own bribing to save Celeborn.

There. A direct hint from the host that if we wanted our candidates to survive, we'd have to scheme and coerce behind the schemes. And I stick by it.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Folwren

Of course. And I'm sure you're very kind and mean nothing serious at all. I can accept that. But I'm awful sensitive at times. Your targetting Faramir and then Eomer and helping those who I hold as an enemy in this game is kind of hard for me to take.

Hehehehe...

Might help to remember that this IS "Middle-Earth Mirth", where crazy is the law, and the more wacky, far-out, and totally nonsensical you can be, while still maintaining some tangible links to Middle-Earth, is the best way to go.

For example, if I had been trying to get my favourite characters (in a serious not a mirthy way) to win, Gandalf, Bilbo, Aragorn, and Elrond, and yes, even Faramir, would have been fought FOR, rather than championing the unlikely Grishnakh.

For what it's worth, it's a great deal more fun to roam around this game taking potshots at the favourite of the day (which has been Eomer for the last few days) than trying to defend them. The thing about attacking is that you get to make hilarious, outrageous charges, taking everything out of context and shredding a perfectly legit reputation. (Or vice versa in the case of the Baddies. )

When defending, you get all the boring tasks, like stating why so and so was so nice- basically quoting the book, and leaving it at that.

And on that note....

Eomer is a name-caller. Look at his cavalier treatment of Aragorn when he enters Rohan! "Wingfoot I name you" he says. Wingfoot, as any discerning person can tell, is a most girly name, and quite unsuited to the future King of Gondor and Arnor, and should properly have been applied to Legolas (there! Eomer is also blind). What's more, it's clearly a veiled reference to the Greek god Hermes, and that's most insulting! How would YOU like to be compared with a naked guy in sandals?

[Anguirel]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

For what it's worth, it's a great deal more fun to roam around this game taking potshots at the favourite of the day (which has been Eomer for the last few days) than trying to defend them. The thing about attacking is that you get to make hilarious, outrageous charges, taking everything out of context and shredding a perfectly legit reputation. (Or vice versa in the case of the Baddies. )

When defending, you get all the boring tasks, like stating why so and so was so nice- basically quoting the book, and leaving it at that.

Dirty job, but somebody has to do it. Besides, defence requires more skill and is more satisfying, as any of the gallant few who defended Celeborn for five days, taking down eight rivals, will testify...

[Glirdan]

Originally Posted by Anguirel

as any of the gallant few who defended Celeborn for five days, taking down eight rivals, will testify...

You do realise that we, the Union of Celeborn haters, did not care that quite a few of those people got voted out?? They might have counted for you, but to us, the more that went, the easier it was to get rid of Celeborn because it gave us more time to recruit people to help us or to let people bandwagon with us.

[Boromir88]

++Eomer

I believe that makes it...

Eomer- 8
Hama- 7

Eomer's time was coming, everyone was getting fed up with his domineering and saying "I'm your King." But as Gimli would say..."Just because some rotted old man, on his deathbed threw a sword at you is no way to base your government. Supreme sovereignty lies with the people." And so ended Eomer's time on the Island.

Elves/Dwarves
Galadriel
Glorfindel
Gloin
Gimli

Hobbits
Merry
Pippin

Men/Rohan Lady
Eowyn
Hama

[Glirdan]

Curses!!! He's gone!!! I won't vote for Hama today, I will vote for

++Gloin

The dwarf is to old for this kind of thing.

[mormegil]

If we are to thin out dwarves I say we let the dwarf who humilated his race by letting 'Gorn toss him be out

++Gimli

Plus there are too many i's in his name.

[Firefoot]

++Gimli

I mean, what did he really do? He joined the Fellowship, then egged Gandalf into Moria where Gandalf was killed - I mean, he's a Dwarf, how much do you want to bet he didn't know there was a balrog there? Then he goes about making audacious not to mention selfish requests from Galadriel. He doesn't really do anything else except insult Eomer until they get to Helm's Deep where he kills forty-something Orcs - so what? Besides, why did he kill the Orcs? Did he ever considered that there might be hope of redemption? Noo. Then he basically does a whole lot of nothing (unless you're going by the movie - then, not only does he do nothing but is annoying doing it).

Really, he's just a useless character. Why on earth is he in the book anyway? And what's he still doing camping out on this island?