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symestreem · 12-30-2003, 07:09 PM

I disagree, Amarie (politely of course [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] ). I don't think the elves would have counted a mortal as "Thingol's heir." The Sil says "No mortal man spoke ever again with Beren son of Barahir;...". Unless Beren took a vow of silence not to speak to his son [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] this would seem to imply that Dior was not mortal. The Sil also says " ...; and so befell the second slaying of Elf by Elf. There fell Celegorm by Dior's hand, and there fell Curufin, and dark Caranthir; but Dior was slain also, and Nimloth his wife...". This could be interpreted differently, but I think it is saying that Dior was an elf.
Hmm... is it possible for Dior to have been a mortal elf? This goes against the definiton of elf, but then how do you explain Arwen if that can't be so?

12-30-2003, 07:09 PM	#16
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	I disagree, Amarie (politely of course [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] ). I don't think the elves would have counted a mortal as "Thingol's heir." The Sil says "No mortal man spoke ever again with Beren son of Barahir;...". Unless Beren took a vow of silence not to speak to his son [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] this would seem to imply that Dior was not mortal. The Sil also says " ...; and so befell the second slaying of Elf by Elf. There fell Celegorm by Dior's hand, and there fell Curufin, and dark Caranthir; but Dior was slain also, and Nimloth his wife...". This could be interpreted differently, but I think it is saying that Dior was an elf. Hmm... is it possible for Dior to have been a mortal elf? This goes against the definiton of elf, but then how do you explain Arwen if that can't be so? __________________ A Gandalf-uncloaking-free zone.