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09-27-2005, 08:34 PM
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Messenger of Hope
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States.
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Oh, come on! Why vote for Faramir? He is completely pure! He didn't even ask to see the Ring when he found out what Frodo bore. He was kind enough to Gollum...and he was awesomely stern. He played a great part in the books. He reminds me of my older brother somewhat. Therefore, if ye kill him, I might get rather mad.
Why are you so set and determined to get Faramir off anyway, Saucey? Do you have a particular problem with him being here? There is NO reason to rid this island of Faramir! Up till now, the elvse have been the ones being removed. People's main argument for doing that is because they're worthless...or stupid...or lazy...but you can not possibly apply any of those things to Faramir! I've seen that there has been some 'lawyer work' here, but, being directly connected to a lawyer, and I'm not kidding (dad a lawyer, brother studying to be one...secretary of one), I'm quite willing to take the defending attorney's job. If I fail, I will go home complaining 'of the jurry being bribed', thing commonly seen now adays. Bring up your prosucutions, Mr. Prosecutor! I'm ready. -- Folwren
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09-27-2005, 08:43 PM
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Energetic Essence
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew
Posts: 3,285
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I'm going to vote for
++Ugluk The fighting with Grishnakh is getting on my nerves.
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09-27-2005, 09:09 PM
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Illusionary Holbytla
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 7,547
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Today we'll go with movies, not books...
++Faramir
Just because it's preferable to Éowyn - I mean, there's only three women left, we've got to give them a shot... and I don't like movie Faramir. Tomorrow, I'm going back to Treebeard. |
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09-27-2005, 11:04 PM
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Shadow of the Past
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Minas Mor-go
Posts: 1,007
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*sigh*
I know it's useless against these anti-Faramir-people, but I'll vote out ++Ugluk And how can you people be voting for Faramir when there are orcs still running amok? |
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09-27-2005, 11:33 PM
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Dead Serious
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers.
Posts: 3,328
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09-28-2005, 02:43 AM
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Pile O'Bones
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In my world, which is a studio flat with a jacuzzi and a burmese cat.
Posts: 24
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*scowls* Two elves? Not good. Not good at all. ++ Faramir. Galadriel and Glorfindel must be protected!
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09-28-2005, 03:48 AM
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Corpus Cacophonous
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A green and pleasant land
Posts: 8,390
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Formendacil has stated the book case, which is a powerful one. But let's face it, we are voting for contestants in a tropical island based reality show here. We should be judging them on their deeds on the island, how suited they are to their environment and how entertaining they are to us the viewers, not their past deeds (glorious, indifferent or otherwise). Faramir makes dull viewing. Plain and simple. And he's not as pure as you would wish him to be. He has now hired two lawyers in a blatant attempt to influence the voting. A clear breach of the rules of the game. He is most undeserving of the prize. That would send out all the wrong kinds of messages. Assuming that Faramir goes (and it really is about time that he did), anyone else who shares my interest in keeping this show exciting should be looking to keep the tribes fairly evenly matched. Then it will come down to a straight fight between them in the final days. So that means voting off another "Man" tomorrow, and then a Hobbit the following day. Oh, and if your going to vote for an Orc, at least have the good sense to vote for the dishonourable one.  As Orcs go, Ugluk is a diamond geezer. 
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09-28-2005, 03:53 AM
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Blithe Spirit
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,779
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Well I'll go for
++Ugluk for now, but I thought the deal was that we'd do Grishnakh today? I'd prefer to lose him first, I must say *whispers* you know, halitosis and armpit issues.
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09-28-2005, 12:16 PM
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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Johnson Bible College: Knoxville, TN
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++FAramir
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09-27-2005, 11:01 PM
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Dead Serious
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers.
Posts: 3,328
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As regards your charges that Faramir is neither "worthless, stupid, or lazy", I again draw your attention to the evidence of his father, whose word as Steward of Gondor is nearly unimpeachable, that is, in fact, all three. However, since you seem to choose to disregard the evidence of His Excellency, the Steward of Gondor, I would like to point out that the actions of Faramir in dealing with the One Ring does, in fact, smack of stupidity. As you note, he doesn't even ask to see the Ring, but sends it off with Frodo. Those of us with 20/20 hindsight can see that this was ultimately the wise thing to do, but even Gandalf admits that the course of Denethor- the course that Faramir was bound to follow as an officer of the Gondorian army- was the prudent course. Faramir was stupidly disobeying his orders, and doing so for stupid reasons: "The Hobbits said that Gandalf said it was better." That's the charge of not being stupid. Next, the charge of not being lazy. Faramir was most definitely lazy. As his actions during the War of the Ring will show, he allowed his brother, the much needed Captain-General of Gondor, to make the 100-day journey to Rivendell while he remained in a three day radius of the White City. Next, we present as evidence his reluctance at taking command of the men in Osgiliath, when he was, as Denethor noted, the most logical choice for command. Finally, although we have no EVIDENCE of a dereliction of duty, one will note that he was conspicuous among the prominent commanders of the Western alliance in his absence at both the Field of Pelennor and the Black Gate. And then for worthless... Worthless is a subjective term, and isn't one that can be made based so much on one person's decisions, but on the decisions of others concerning him. But take note of those who knew him well: Boromir, although Faramir claims he was close to him, makes not a mention of him from Rivendell to his death, although he mentions his father several times. Denethor, as already noted, DOES indeed think him worthless. His wife-to-be, Eowyn, only accepts him as a second-best choice. Aragorn is so unconcerned with him, that he does not dispense with his chief rival, but goes so far as to make him prince, and his steward to boot. If he were concerned at all about him, he'd have the sense to make a less well-connected man, like Hurin of the Keys, his steward. Clearly, his IS lazy, stupid, and worthless. He ought to be removed.
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