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09-27-2005, 04:46 PM
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Riveting Ribbiter
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Assigned to Mordor
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++Eowyn
I don't think Faramir would be willing to go in her place. And I have other hidden reasons for my vote... 
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09-27-2005, 04:52 PM
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Maundering Mage
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Texas
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Having so many elves eliminated
Celeborn Cirdan Thanduril Elrond makes me feel that Samwise has now been somewhat vindicated. My purpose was to get revenge upon those who took out my Samwise. Now I hope to be much more agreeable.  But I will thin out men a bit with my vote too and go ++FARAMIR
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09-27-2005, 05:10 PM
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Corpus Cacophonous
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: A green and pleasant land
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++ FARAMIR of course!
Now he's being divisive amongst his own tribe and getting people to vote for the other members, just to save his own skin. His wife and brother no less! The man has no shame!  Oh and, Formendacil. What's going on? Has he got to you too? Come on, get (back) with the programme ... 
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09-27-2005, 05:28 PM
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Maniacal Mage
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side!
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Please don't look at the subliminal messages
Long years now choose how farmers arose right among mingled inhanced rings!
Please don't stop to think about the words, just repeat them in your head, and then lynch the person who comes to mind! 10 points to the person who gets the message! It's really not that hard
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'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.' |
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09-27-2005, 05:33 PM
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Odinic Wanderer
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Under the Raven banner, between tall Odin and white Christ!
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I tried Perky i realy did, but i do have belives and they were to strong
My reasons are not at all hidden, but i will not repeat them!
++Eowyn
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09-27-2005, 05:41 PM
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Riveting Ribbiter
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Sorry, my eyes were opened by the icon
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But I can't do it today (I'd be happy to do so tomorrow), unless there is another vote change. As I said, there are other considerations which I'm not sure I should discuss yet...
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09-27-2005, 05:44 PM
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Maniacal Mage
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Setting sail for Umbar, with Firefoot at my side!
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And ten points for Celuien! Only 5,472,997,634,815,162,342 more points, and you can be my partner in crime for my take over of Middle Earth!
Lynch Faramir! Because you know you want too! Oh, and no subliminal messages in those numbers either
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'But Melkor also was there, and he came to the house of Fëanor, and there he slew Finwë King of the Noldor before his doors, and spilled the first blood in the Blessed Realm; for Finwë alone had not fled from the horror of the Dark.' |
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09-27-2005, 07:07 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers.
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Which, I guess makes Faramir all more the worth the elimination, if he can subvert the minds of those around us, even as his worst qualities are presented (except maybe for that waves fetish of his...). So, I guess: -- Eowyn ++Faramir
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09-27-2005, 08:34 PM
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Messenger of Hope
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States.
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Oh, come on! Why vote for Faramir? He is completely pure! He didn't even ask to see the Ring when he found out what Frodo bore. He was kind enough to Gollum...and he was awesomely stern. He played a great part in the books. He reminds me of my older brother somewhat. Therefore, if ye kill him, I might get rather mad.
Why are you so set and determined to get Faramir off anyway, Saucey? Do you have a particular problem with him being here? There is NO reason to rid this island of Faramir! Up till now, the elvse have been the ones being removed. People's main argument for doing that is because they're worthless...or stupid...or lazy...but you can not possibly apply any of those things to Faramir! I've seen that there has been some 'lawyer work' here, but, being directly connected to a lawyer, and I'm not kidding (dad a lawyer, brother studying to be one...secretary of one), I'm quite willing to take the defending attorney's job. If I fail, I will go home complaining 'of the jurry being bribed', thing commonly seen now adays. Bring up your prosucutions, Mr. Prosecutor! I'm ready. -- Folwren
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09-27-2005, 08:43 PM
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Energetic Essence
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew
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I'm going to vote for
++Ugluk The fighting with Grishnakh is getting on my nerves.
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09-27-2005, 09:09 PM
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Illusionary Holbytla
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Today we'll go with movies, not books...
++Faramir
Just because it's preferable to Éowyn - I mean, there's only three women left, we've got to give them a shot... and I don't like movie Faramir. Tomorrow, I'm going back to Treebeard. |
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09-27-2005, 11:01 PM
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Dead Serious
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers.
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As regards your charges that Faramir is neither "worthless, stupid, or lazy", I again draw your attention to the evidence of his father, whose word as Steward of Gondor is nearly unimpeachable, that is, in fact, all three. However, since you seem to choose to disregard the evidence of His Excellency, the Steward of Gondor, I would like to point out that the actions of Faramir in dealing with the One Ring does, in fact, smack of stupidity. As you note, he doesn't even ask to see the Ring, but sends it off with Frodo. Those of us with 20/20 hindsight can see that this was ultimately the wise thing to do, but even Gandalf admits that the course of Denethor- the course that Faramir was bound to follow as an officer of the Gondorian army- was the prudent course. Faramir was stupidly disobeying his orders, and doing so for stupid reasons: "The Hobbits said that Gandalf said it was better." That's the charge of not being stupid. Next, the charge of not being lazy. Faramir was most definitely lazy. As his actions during the War of the Ring will show, he allowed his brother, the much needed Captain-General of Gondor, to make the 100-day journey to Rivendell while he remained in a three day radius of the White City. Next, we present as evidence his reluctance at taking command of the men in Osgiliath, when he was, as Denethor noted, the most logical choice for command. Finally, although we have no EVIDENCE of a dereliction of duty, one will note that he was conspicuous among the prominent commanders of the Western alliance in his absence at both the Field of Pelennor and the Black Gate. And then for worthless... Worthless is a subjective term, and isn't one that can be made based so much on one person's decisions, but on the decisions of others concerning him. But take note of those who knew him well: Boromir, although Faramir claims he was close to him, makes not a mention of him from Rivendell to his death, although he mentions his father several times. Denethor, as already noted, DOES indeed think him worthless. His wife-to-be, Eowyn, only accepts him as a second-best choice. Aragorn is so unconcerned with him, that he does not dispense with his chief rival, but goes so far as to make him prince, and his steward to boot. If he were concerned at all about him, he'd have the sense to make a less well-connected man, like Hurin of the Keys, his steward. Clearly, his IS lazy, stupid, and worthless. He ought to be removed.
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