Scene-by-scene? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Essex · 09-26-2005, 05:03 AM

yeah, but the scenes jump from chapter to chapter (and book to book) - so we could do it against the titles of the DVD EE 'chapters'?

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 09-26-2005, 07:03 AM

It'll only make me feel worse about not participating in the CbC section but OK.

And I don't think it will be difficult to run it. Basically, all the moderator would have to do is signal when the discussion moves onto the next scene. Right? We're not necessarily talking about Estelyn-levels of involvement, are we?

alatar · 09-26-2005, 12:01 PM

Thanks for the replies. Will do some thinking and (for gosh sakes!) some planning and get started here soon as permitted.

And I think that we should stick with the DVDs as they are presented. Hopefully all participants will have access to the EE versions, as PJ "made these ones for us." And as we are critiquing the movies, it would be helpful to leave the books at home.

Did I just commit the unforgivable sin on the Downs?

I know that we will still be saying things like "Treebeard didn't say that" and "that happened later in the Books" but (1) this is the movie section of the forum and (2) we are discussing the movies. So it would be helpful if we stayed with what was on the screen and in the commentaries.

Thoughts?

Anguirel · 09-26-2005, 12:04 PM

Mmm...I think reference to and synthesis with the books will add a rich layer to this scheme, myself. As long as the primary object remains the discussed scene.

Shelob · 09-26-2005, 12:10 PM

For purposes of discussing the translation from book to movie it's cool...Book and Film are two completely different mediums and you can't express in one what you can in another. To look solely at the movies, without any reference to the books, will harm the movies and to compare them in to stringent a manner will harm both movies and books. It's balance, or a juggling act...

However, given that it's to be a discussion of the movies, I agree the discussion should be focused towards the movies, with the books as simply supporting material.

Kath · 09-26-2005, 01:07 PM

I like the idea. It'd be good to see what other people really think of the films and why rather than just posting a little and then having to stop because it's off-topic.

alatar since it's not too much work (as you said yourself) why don't you be 'moderator' since it was your idea?

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-27-2005, 06:15 PM

Seems like a good idea to me. I doubt that I'll get too deeply involved myself, as I have been over and over many of the scenes many times, but I'm happy to take overall "modding" responsibility for it.

Alatar, would you be prepared to take on the day-to-day running of the discussion (starting new threads, posting links to the script etc)? If so, how do you propose structuring it? Do you envisage having a new thread for each new scene? If so, then I'll have to think about whether a sub-forum in the Movies Forum might be a sensible option.

09-26-2005, 07:03 AM	#2
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	It'll only make me feel worse about not participating in the CbC section but OK. And I don't think it will be difficult to run it. Basically, all the moderator would have to do is signal when the discussion moves onto the next scene. Right? We're not necessarily talking about Estelyn-levels of involvement, are we? __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

09-26-2005, 12:01 PM	#3
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	Thanks for the replies. Will do some thinking and (for gosh sakes!) some planning and get started here soon as permitted. And I think that we should stick with the DVDs as they are presented. Hopefully all participants will have access to the EE versions, as PJ "made these ones for us." And as we are critiquing the movies, it would be helpful to leave the books at home. Did I just commit the unforgivable sin on the Downs? I know that we will still be saying things like "Treebeard didn't say that" and "that happened later in the Books" but (1) this is the movie section of the forum and (2) we are discussing the movies. So it would be helpful if we stayed with what was on the screen and in the commentaries. Thoughts? __________________ There is naught that you can do, other than to resist, with hope or without it.

09-26-2005, 12:04 PM	#4
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Mmm...I think reference to and synthesis with the books will add a rich layer to this scheme, myself. As long as the primary object remains the discussed scene. __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

09-26-2005, 12:10 PM	#5
Shelob Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the abysmal Abyss Mall. Posts: 276	For purposes of discussing the translation from book to movie it's cool...Book and Film are two completely different mediums and you can't express in one what you can in another. To look solely at the movies, without any reference to the books, will harm the movies and to compare them in to stringent a manner will harm both movies and books. It's balance, or a juggling act... However, given that it's to be a discussion of the movies, I agree the discussion should be focused towards the movies, with the books as simply supporting material. __________________ A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his name ~Evan Esar. Pan for Everyone!

09-26-2005, 01:07 PM	#6
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	I like the idea. It'd be good to see what other people really think of the films and why rather than just posting a little and then having to stop because it's off-topic. alatar since it's not too much work (as you said yourself) why don't you be 'moderator' since it was your idea? __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

09-26-2005, 05:03 AM	#1
Essex Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Essex, England Posts: 886	yeah, but the scenes jump from chapter to chapter (and book to book) - so we could do it against the titles of the DVD EE 'chapters'?

09-27-2005, 06:15 PM	#7
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Seems like a good idea to me. I doubt that I'll get too deeply involved myself, as I have been over and over many of the scenes many times, but I'm happy to take overall "modding" responsibility for it. Alatar, would you be prepared to take on the day-to-day running of the discussion (starting new threads, posting links to the script etc)? If so, how do you propose structuring it? Do you envisage having a new thread for each new scene? If so, then I'll have to think about whether a sub-forum in the Movies Forum might be a sensible option. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!