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Old 09-24-2005, 11:05 AM   #1
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If no one is behind my Eonwe campaign, than I shall, with reluctance, vote for Boromir tonight.
I have pondered this Eonwe thing for a couple of days and right now he seems sincere. But by all means, vote as you like. I for one will probably have to vote for Boromir if he can't convince me otherwise.
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:41 PM   #2
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If no one is behind my Eonwe campaign, than I shall, with reluctance, vote for Boromir tonight.
I hate to say it, Anguirel, but your vote yesterday for Eonwe was one of my possible wolf-for-wolf voting possibilities, and if you back off now and go after Boro who has come out of nowhere to become a lynching target suddenly- that looks a bit suspicious.

But, of course, if Boro turns out to be a wolf and Eonwe innocent then you'll look pretty smart.

I've got something I've got to do, but I'll be back as quick as I can to say more. If you don't have to vote right away, hold off until I'm back.
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Old 09-24-2005, 12:48 PM   #3
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I'm sorry, fellow villagers. I realise that today is a really vital day for considered thought and careful voting, but real life events have conspired against me, I'm just grabbing a few seconds to come on here now. Having wanted to assess properly the post-Gil scenario, I now find I haven't the time to give all this the proper thought it deserves.
Anguirel, I'm kind of inclined to accept your explanations - for now. Like I said, I'm feeling more trusting to Kitanna, and Marcolie, too, I suppose, than yesterday. This new Boromir theory looks interesting but I just don't have the time to go back over the posts and so on to consider it, so I'll pass on that for now.
So, as I can't come back tonight, I'm going to go for
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I'm not feeling as confident as I'd like about this and I really hope I'm not contributing to some new fiasco, but it's the best I can do.
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Old 09-24-2005, 01:21 PM   #4
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phantom, I'm past caring about other people's scrutiny of my conduct, morals, and/or voting habits. The fact is, if we don't catch a wolf this evening we stand on the gibbet's very block. I'm not going to pussyfoot or politick; I will vote for anyone who fulfills these two criteria:

1. I believe they are a wolf

2. I think I can get them lynched

Eonwe currently fills 1, but not especially 2. Boromir fills 2, but not especially 1. Kuru does not fulfill 1 in the slightest and fulfills 2 to the extent that he's in danger whether I vote for him or not. What I do not want to happen is to be forced into voting for a lesser suspect to defend a believed innocent. I am determined that this evening's corpse must transform.

This means that I will hang on to Eonwe as long as his death is viable. I will vote for Boromir or possibly Kitanna if strong and trustworthy parties condemn them.

Oh, and phantom, please post your hinted words of wisdom...I am sorely in need of them. I must have more mulling-over matter...

EDIT: Note that for those villagers used to, er, living in the small island to the east, the Edain of the Brittirim, the sons of Arthu son of Uthu...you know what I'm driving at...the ones who like to insert "u"s into words like honour, valour and armour...well, for us lot, voting in an hour is not an early vote, but the latest possible. So I either get suspected for voting early or not at all, and I'm somewhat sick of it.
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Old 09-24-2005, 01:38 PM   #5
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Okay, I'm back.

Anguirel, here's what I have to say.

I said earlier that your vote for Eonwe yesterday was a pretty safe vote if you were both wolves because Gil was well on his way.

Now today, there is not a candidate that is quite so likely to win, therefore a vote for Eonwe early on would perhaps endanger him, and you indeed seem less willing to cast your vote for him. Are you looking for a way off of the Eonwe bus? Is he your wolf buddy?

Well, now that I've said that, I will also say that I have less suspicion of you than I have of Eonwe, so I won't be voting for you today.

I suspect Eonwe a bit for the double lynching on Day 1 (which may or may not have been an accident), I suspect him a bit for suspecting me who I know to be innocent, I suspect him a bit for gunning for Kuru who my head tells me is likely to be innocent, and I suspect him a bit for showing such restraint and not going after the person who is trying to get him lynched- Anguirel. His response to Ang seems a bit too cool-headed if you ask me. It's wolvishly cool.

So- I am behind your Eonwe campaign in the sense that I suspect him more than I do some others, but I also suspect you a bit. And though I enjoy your flattery quite a bit, it almost seems like the type of things a wolf would say to an innocent to try to 1) get on his good side so as not to be suspected, and 2) make sure that if he is killed that he is connected with an innocent so that the innocent will be lynched next.

My suspicions of the two of you are high enough that I'd be willing to bet a good little bit that at least one of you is a wolf.

But that doesn't mean I'll be voting for either of you since I suspect everyone else to some degree also. I'll be around for the rest of the day, so I'll make sure a double lynching doesn't happen.

Lalaith popped in and voted for Kuru. This was sort of expected seeing as she didn't seem to take his early finger pointing very well. One of them could be a wolf, but they aren't a pair of wolves. It's too dangerous for her to vote for him at this point if they're both wolves.

Kitanna and Kuru, in a repeat of yesterday, voted for each other. It would be the ultimate bluff if they are both wolves, but I don't see the need for them to have taken such a risk at this point. Only one of them is a wolf (or none- though I think one is likely).

Boromir has quickly found himself in the hot seat. My suspicion is always awakened when someone suddenly and unexpectedly moves into a perilous position, but I must admit that Spawn has made some good points, so it's hard to suspect her for what she's done.

I'm interested to see if Marc will still be willing to vote for Kitanna when she is in danger.
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Old 09-24-2005, 02:02 PM   #6
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phantom, you are trying to goad me into charging ahead and voting for Eonwe, while refusing to back me with a vote yourself. If I were to be led down the path you advice, a wolf might be hung, but it would not be a wolf of my choosing...the wolves won't vote for their fellow-wolf, and those down in my book as non-wolves (as spawn now is) seem reluctant too.

You know, I suppose we are two proverbial hair's breadths from disaster, not one...there is still time to see if we can throw off our shackles. I am now, phantom, strongly tempted to vote for you; but I know it would trigger a Loudmouth War. I must hesitate.

I'm going to do some research in the, ah, village annals, and perfect a strategem.
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Old 09-24-2005, 02:22 PM   #7
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EDIT: Note that for those villagers used to, er, living in the small island to the east, the Edain of the Brittirim, the sons of Arthu son of Uthu...you know what I'm driving at...the ones who like to insert "u"s into words like honour, valour and armour...well, for us lot, voting in an hour is not an early vote, but the latest possible. So I either get suspected for voting early or not at all, and I'm somewhat sick of it.


Well, it's time for me to vote. Of the Kitanna, Boromir & Marcolie trio I'm most suspicious of Boromir and Marcolie. But is there any chance to get either of them lynched today? Will my vote be wasted if I vote one of them? I don't know. But as a stubborn person I must vote for

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It's pity, though, that I can't stay up and wait to see some further thoughts from him.
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Old 09-24-2005, 02:30 PM   #8
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Spawn, may you be thrice accursed if you have misled me in dark knowledge. The malediction of a Gaurwaith is everlasting, everhaunting, a glint of steel biting into the very stuff of your mind and thoughts, a malaise that seizes your limbs and saps your vigour. Let it be so, if you have played me false!

But if not, thou art holden blessed, and thy safe passage through the marches of the woods of my fellows shall be assured while I and thou breathe.

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I'm wondering if you are going to stick with what you believed yesterday.
I believe it still. But it is true that I do not stick to it...already I am unsure...but what's done is done.
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Old 09-24-2005, 02:25 PM   #9
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phantom, you are trying to goad me into charging ahead and voting for Eonwe
Yes, pretty much. I'm wondering if you are going to stick with what you believed yesterday.
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while refusing to back me with a vote yourself
Can you blame me?

If it was between Eonwe and one of the people lower down my suspicion list (Kuru, Spawn, Boro, or you) then I would gladly give you my vote for Eonwe, but I think that, at this point, it is likely to be between Kitanna and Kuru, and my vote might be needed to break a tie. Plus, if Eonwe gets only our two votes and is not lynched, I might look like I was "throwing away" my vote.
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If I were to be led down the path you advice, a wolf might be hung, but it would not be a wolf of my choosing...
Well, to that I would simply say "who cares?"

A wolf is a wolf. If a wolf ends up dead today, that's all that matters. I don't care which wolf. I'd settle for any wolf.

But anyway, the main reason I am unwilling to commit a vote to someone I suspect (Eonwe) is because I'm worried that I won't have my vote when I need it to break a double lynching.

Let me ask you, Ang, should I go ahead and vote for Eonwe right now and just hope and trust that other people won't cause a double lynching?

Are you willing to trust everyone else not to cause a double lynching?
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