Werewolf X: The One Saga to Rule them All!

[Boromir88]

Oh my, could the death of our Seer come at a more worse time?

Regarding the voting that took place yesterday, I am very dissapointed. 5 People chose not to vote. One of them I will excuse (Azaelia) because she had a reason, the four who did not vote (excluding Azaelia)...

Gil-galad
Perky
Glirdan
Anguirel

So, Gil-galad, Anguirel you better be able to explain why you did not vote yesterday, leaving us with a double-lynching.

[Celuien]

Oh no. Things do not look good with the loss of the Seer.

Originally Posted by Cailin

Too bad you felt the need to vote for me, so I hope you will really, really regret it when I am lynched and turn out to be innocent.

I do. I'm very sorry, Cailin. We seem to have been two innocents caught up in a web of suspicions.

Long post coming soon...

[Celuien]

Okay, here's the complete set of theories. I know that the ill-fated duel with Cailin brought me onto the suspicion list, but yesterDAY I was pretty convinced one of the following theories was correct:

1) A Kuruharan/Cailin wolf duo was in play:
Their posts seemed like perfect wolf strategy. Cailin would pick a fight with me, Kuru would say he found us both suspicious as a result, both fanning the flames between us and giving him distance from Cailin.
2) Cailin was a wolf who was trying to cast suspicion on me and was playing off of Kuru’s finding us both odd.
3) Kuru was a wolf stirring the pot between two innocents, hoping we’d finish each other off while he could sit back from a comfortable distance.

I didn’t have time to post this with my vote as I was already running late. Since we now know that Cailin was innocent, 1 and 2 are definitely excluded. And Kuru’s posts during the vote discussion yesterday (and the one I just saw for toDAY while writing this post) have made me seriously question theory 3. In other words, I do not suspect Kuru right now.

At least we have yesterDAY’s voting record (given below with all votes in order and including the number of votes for each person at the time cast):

Votes:
Dancing Spawn……Glirdan (1)
Celuien……………Cailin (1)
Kitanna……………Glirdan (2)
Lalaith……………..Perky Ent (1)
Boromir88…………Gil-Galad (1)
Cailìn………………Anguirel (1)
Márcolië Lamen…...Anguirel (2)
WaynetheGoblin…...Glirdan (3)
Kuruharan…………Gil-Galad (2)
the phantom……….Cailin (2)
Eonwe……………...Cailin (3)
------Voting closed-------------------
The Perky Ent……..Gil-Galad (3rd after close)

Non-voters:
Zali (excused)
Glirdan (proven innocent)
Anguirel
Gil-Galad

I’m almost sure that there’s a wolf to be found among the non-voters. Either Anguirel or Gil-Galad could have stopped the double-lynching yesterday but chose not to do so. I’ll be eagerly awaiting their explanations. Eonwe also looks suspicious for her late (5 minutes before closing) vote that caused the Cailin/Glirdan tie (Glirdan already had 3 votes an hour earlier).

Originally Posted by Eonwe

please remember, i don't really have a suspicion(s) right now, just plying my knife in the dark. come what may.
cross posted with the phantom we use the same logic!

I'm not sure why she felt the need to point out thinking like the phantom - unless it was to cover a questionable tie-making vote by saying it was just the same thing a trusted phantom did. I know that the vote could have been a genuine error since Perky would have caused a triple lynch had his vote come in before the deadline, but I still think that Eonwe has some explaining to do.

So, my possible wolves based on the non-voter/tie-maker combinations are Eonwe, Anguirel, or Gil.

There could very well be wolves in the votes cast for non-lynchees yesterday to spread themselves out.

Finally, I’m very well aware that at least a few of you will find me very suspicious today. All I can say I that I’m not a wolf. I don’t expect anyone to simply take my word for it, but if you’ll just give me a chance, I’ll try to prove that I only have the best interests of the village at heart.

[Eonwe]

Originally posted by Celuien:

I'm not sure why she felt the need to point out thinking like the phantom - unless it was to cover a questionable tie-making vote by saying it was just the same thing a trusted phantom did. I know that the vote could have been a genuine error since Perky would have caused a triple lynch had his vote come in before the deadline, but I still think that Eonwe has some explaining to do.

*ehem* that's a he

no i wasn't trying to alighn my self with the phantom. I think that he is a really good candidate for being chosen to be a wolf (unless its random, idk, this being my first time). please note i have no suspicioun (as yet) of the phantom.

Im not sure, but i want to investigate Boromir and Kuru. they seem like they could be working together, but it also seems to be to closely to be suspicious. right now, that is where my thought will go.

[Kitanna]

Our seer dead? Oh dear...
Though judging by Perky's posts I don't think he dreamt of a wolf. Probably just an innocent. At least that's what I think because Perky really didn't accuse anyone, he simply said "so and so has fallen under my radar"

But I am going to be quite bold here and say I believe at least one wolf voted for Glirdan and one voted for Cailin. As for the other wolf, I am not sure. It is possibly the last didn't vote at all.

But I suggest looking to those who voted without much of a reason.
Right now I am quite worried about Wayne. He said one thing at the beginning of the day and then came in suddenly saying he thought Glirdan was suspicious and gave no reason. Then he voted for Glirdan with no reason to back it up. I am not so sure about dancing spawn. I don't find her overly suspious, but I don't find her all that trustworthy.
As for those that voted for Cailin, I'm quite in the dark on who to suspect. Though I think the phantom may be innocent, but I am unsure of the others.

She voiced suspicions of Perky

I do not recall saying any such thing. Infact, I thought Perky was innocent.
I realize with Perky and Glirdan dead it looks rather bad for me. But I know I am innocent. Also what cause would I have to go after Perky? He had said I was on his suspect list and any sensible wolf would know not to go after someone who suspects you.

[Boromir88]

I don't know how much we can get off of the votes from yesterday though. To me it seemed like a bunch of random accusations and random votes.

I will admit my vote for Gil-galad I was not very convinced that he was a wolf. But at that time he looked to me to be the most wolfish. Though Gil-galad baffles me, it seems he wants to look like a wolf, it's like he's a kamikaze wolf. Doing everything we would expect a wolf to do and not offering a shred of defense. Perhaps, that is his defense, or perhaps he's trying to attempt a double-bluff in looking like a wolf?

The only thing I can really tell from the votes yesterday, is I'm more confident that Anguirel or Gil-galad is a wolf. Though again, I'm not certain at this point.

I say this because they did not vote at all and a double lynching was acheived. Now this is a bold moves by wolves, because I'm sure they would expect suspicion. So, I would think that if lets say one person did not vote, that person would not be a wolf, because to allow a double lynching and be the only person not to vote would look far too suspicious. but with multiple people not voting (5!!!) a wolf hiding in the no-votes would be more protected.

[Kuruharan]

Rereading Perky's list it appears the first three are in order. Well, it doesn't matter. The point is everyone who posted is on that list and why would Perky leave himself out?

Kitanna Post 38

“Voiced suspicions” does not mean outright accusation (or I would have said “outright accusation”). It does mean that you viewed him with skepticism (which in theory is justified) and drew attention to him. I did the same thing myself in one post. However, your subsequent behavior is disturbing, to put it mildly. It is more of an adding effect rather than one particular instance.

We'd all be interested to hear a more in depth response.

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

We'd all be interested to hear a more in depth response.

And what would you like to hear exactly? I am sure there is nothing I can say that will completely change your mind.

[Boromir88]

And what would you like to hear exactly? I am sure there is nothing I can say that will completely change your mind.~Kitanna

Perhaps assisting us as to who the wolves may be?

[Kitanna]

Perhaps assisting us as to who the wolves may be?

Wouldn't that be nice if I did know? But I don't, and a good number of other people are just as in the dark as I am. I can make up a list of wolves, but what good would that do?

You do need outside help (which is suddenly in short supply) but you'd better try anyway. You never know.

I see no point, what if I get the wrong kind of outside help? Oh, like, let's say a wolf.

But I must say again I see cause to watch Wayne. I would like to see a reason, a reason better then "because he seems wolfish" for his voting for Glirdan. Why did he seem wolfish? Please, elaborate, Wayne.

Out of the non voters it's impossible to say with Zali. Gil gives us little to go on. He was getting into his character and said little outside of that. Anguirel well he, like Gil, gives me very little to go on.

Now here comes dancing spawn, she is a tricky one. First she mentionsMárcolië, but later she mentions Glirdan and says she is not contented with his behavior.

Please, people, let the wolves do their own thinking. Do not say who you think to be gifted villagers. Unless... but it's too dangerous and a little unfair, too.

This statement though, makes me think she is probably an innocent. I don't think a wolf would discourage that kind of behavior in the villagers.

Those who voted for Cailin:
Celuien was the first, though I think our wolf may have been one either the second or third vote. I'm not wiping her off my suspects list, but I am placing her near the bottom.
the phantom was the second to vote for Cailin. At that time Glirdan already had three votes. At the time of his vote it looked like Glirdan was most likely going to get it. Again, I find the phantom low on my suspects list.
Eonwe was the last person to vote (except for Perky's late vote) and he voted minutes before day ended. Also his vote was (as he says) a cross-post with phantom, which of course is quite possible. However it was his vote that pushed Cailin to the gallows. He bears watching.

[Celuien]

Afterthought -

The triple lynch suspicion caveat only works, of course, if Gil-Galad truly is innocent. I'll have to review Perky's posts to see if there's a hint that he happened to dream of Gil and found a lycanthrope. That would be fortunate for us!

And I agree that it's unlikely that two wolves sat out the vote yesterday. One hiding in the group is far safer for them.

[Eonwe]

sigh...i guess i had it coming. however....

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Oridginally posted by Kuru

Eonwe - Suspicious. Did not say much and was reluctant to commit himself for the longest time. Then he cast the deciding vote that sealed a double hanging. He may or may not have seen the phantom’s vote before he voted. He bears close watching. I think either he or the phantom is a wolf.

I was reluctant for a very long time. I only decided to vote at around 6:50. And mostly you swayed my decision, Kuru. I did not see the phantoms post until after i posted. random bad luck. as for the phantom...i cannot say. i would also like to quote some other stuff for my benifit

originally posted by me

please remember, i don't really have a suspicion(s) right now, just plying my knife in the dark. come what may.

Kuru agina

...and it helps spread out the range of possibilities.

this is what really made me decide to vote. and the rest of taht post.

[Kuruharan]

The triple lynch suspicion caveat only works, of course, if Gil-Galad truly is innocent. I'll have to review Perky's posts to see if there's a hint that he happened to dream of Gil and found a lycanthrope. That would be fortunate for us!

I think we can take it as a given that Perky dreamed about Glirdan. That is probably what completely doomed him.

And what would you like to hear exactly? I am sure there is nothing I can say that will completely change your mind.

And I'm glad you realize it. You do need outside help (which is suddenly in short supply) but you'd better try anyway. You never know.

Now, time for dinner...I mean breakfast!! Where's my meat and cheese lover's pizza?!

[Celuien]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

I think we can take it as a given that Perky dreamed about Glirdan. That is probably what completely doomed him.

I see what you mean. Scratch that idea.

[WaynetheGoblin]

Perky voted for Gil yesterday. Its posible that Perky dreamt about Gil on night one and he was a wolf. Gil couldent have been lynched because that would have made it a triple lynch.

[Eonwe]

please just read over Boromir's and Kuru's posts from yesterDay and tell me what you think. i see supiciousness and i see inocence at teh same time.

[Celuien]

Originally Posted by WaynetheGoblin

Perky voted for Gil yesterday. Its posible that Perky dreamt about Gil on night one and he was a wolf. Gil couldent have been lynched because that would have made it a triple lynch.

Look closely at Perky's posts. Although I did put the idea of a Gil dream forward, it's pretty obvious on review that he dreamt of Glirdan, which unfortunately doesn't help us.

Sorry Eonwe (especially as I've repeatedly been taken for a he).

I don't find the phantom particularly suspect right now, although that could change. While he is on Kuru's list today, I don't think anyone was looking closely at him while the votes were being cast yesterday, which is why I thought a tag-along would be a reasonable wolf strategy (assuming tp's innocence).

I also don't really suspect Kuru. Everything he's said (other than adding fuel to my Cailin duel from yesterday) seems to have been helpful. Boro isn't really on my screen either. At least, I'd rather hear more from my main suspects Gil and Anguirel before looking in their direction.

At any rate, I'll be watching everyone closely today.