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Old 09-18-2005, 10:20 AM   #1
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Defending yourself so furiously only makes people think you are hiding something from the rest of us. It is dangerous to defend yourself too much just as it is too defend yourself too little. It makes people wonder, Glirdan.
Yes, I know I am being rather hot headed but I am defending myself as I see fit. I can't exactly prove to you that I'm innocent unless the Seer decides to reveal himself/herself or I get lynched or attacked during the night. But I am telling you, I'm innocent and if you want to get the wolves I suggest you look at people other than me. What about those who've said to much or to little? What about Zali, Wayne and Gil?" he said turning to look at the other villagers in turn. "We need to get more say from those three. We've still heard nothing from and no deffense from Gil or Wayne and there's only 6 hours and 41 minutes left before we have to decide." he said as he trailed back into thought.
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:28 AM   #2
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"Who's post would you be pointing to Lalaith?" Glirdan asked. "It would seem like you are pointing to me and saying the same thing about me as Spawn. Are you?"
You're being a bit paranoid and twitchy, teacher dear. I was actually pointing at Spawn's post, saying that we both posted the same thing, I was writing my post while hers appeared.
Incidently, you were not the only one to discuss possible gifteds: our spicy experimenter, Mr Perky, also did so.
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:31 AM   #3
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You're being a bit paranoid and twitchy, teacher dear. I was actually pointing at Spawn's post, saying that we both posted the same thing, I was writing my post while hers appeared.
Incidently, you were not the only one to discuss possible gifteds: our spicy experimenter, Mr Perky, also did so.
"You'd be a little paranoid as well if everyone kept accusing you of being a wolf. I was just checking to see if you were or not."
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:37 AM   #4
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Glirdan's nervousness is making me nervous. He posts a lot, and I do mean a lot, but much of the time he is saying very little. Glirdan, you do not have to defend yourself after every post that makes mention of you. When day started I had no real reason to suspect you, but the more you act like this, the more likely I am to find reason to vote for you.

As for Wayne, Zali, and Gil, I really hope they post soon. Especially Wayne and Zali. Wayne has posted once right after Wilwa's death and it didn't give us much to go on. And Zali hasn't posted at all.
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Old 09-18-2005, 10:48 AM   #5
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Believe it or not, at this moment I'm actually inclined to think that Glirdan might just be an innocent with a rather flimsy grasp of how to carry on. That is just an instinct though. Careful watching of that one is required, although I'm not inclined to vote for him at the moment.

Whatever we do, let's not lynch Zali today. From what I've read and heard it would be extremely unusual for a werewolf not to interact at all with the intended victims on the first DAY. I'm pretty sure all three wolves are among us right now, but even if Zali is one of them, she can be kept until later. Besides, if she keeps this up she may buy it anyway.

Unfortunately, these thoughts lead me back to exactly nowhere. "Evidence" is far too strong a word for what is against Gil-Galad at the moment. Wayne is...well, Wayne.

As for everyone else, well...nobody else has really done anything too weird, but don't trust anyone. I don't object to suspicion cast in my direction (or anybody else's), just so long as there is some semblance of a rational basis for it. Unfortunately, it is DAY ONE and there is little rational basis for anything.
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:30 PM   #6
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many forgiveness for my quietness, i totally forgot about this thread... but i'm merely falling into my character role, if i was a wolf unthusiast one WW game, would lynch me because of that? so it is rather unfair to lynch someone based on their character role
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:35 PM   #7
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many forgiveness for my quietness, i totally forgot about this thread... but i'm merely falling into my character role, if i was a wolf unthusiast one WW game, would lynch me because of that? so it is rather unfair to lynch someone based on their character role
I'm not sure about anyone else, but I wsn't planning on lynching you for your character role. I think your silence is what throws most people off.
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:45 PM   #8
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I have no time to post, so I'll make this quick.

Since we have no evidence, don't vote off the strategists today- they could be useful, especially if they're gifted.

Second, make a pool of your four primary suspects (for instance, right now it might be Gil, Zali, Glirdan, and Wayne who are being talked about the most), and then divide your votes between them, keeping the totals as close as possible so that the outcome is up in the air- but you probably want to avoid a double lynching.

That's all I have time to say.

Good luck.
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I'm not leaving just yet. There's still a vote to be made and I'm not going anywhere until I cast mine.

I'm not planning to vote for Gil-Galad. My early call to him was totally random and only calculated to get a response, which I see he has now given. Nor will I vote for Zali or Wayne. They simply haven't given me enough to go on.

Cailin is starting to make me uneasy, mostly because she seems determined to cast suspicion in my direction. Not to beat a dead horse, but the only thing Cailin has to accuse me of is asking everyone to participate in the discussion, and she seems to keep pressing the issue even though I've clarified and explained my position multiple times. I also found this strange:

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But still, you are the first of us to actually make a list, which I suppose is only to be praised.
Backhanded praise if ever I saw it. I'd also like to point out that there were a few lists out there at the time, although mine was the first to have categories. I'm also curious to know how she reconciles the statement that I'm the first to do anything with her later statement

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Even though it looks like he makes valid points in this discussion, he's mostly just repeating the phantom, spawn and some others he listed as valuable.
I am a she, by the way.

Finally, I'm not opposed to being a touchpoint for discussion - that was part of the point of my call for loudmouths.
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Old 09-18-2005, 01:12 PM   #10
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Please, people, let's not lynch Zali toDAY. Wolves have spoken this DAY. Let's try to concentrate on them.

I have an idea forming in my beady little brain...but it is not safe for me to mention yet. In fact, it may have to wait until DAY TWO (if I make it that far).
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Old 09-18-2005, 01:15 PM   #11
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Ok I've looke through the posts and here's my further thoughts.

I agree with Kuru in that we should not decide to lynch Azaelia today. I think there's probably some reasoning for her not being here, other than she's a wolf. I think we should keep her on our watch list, but seeing as she's not here right now and we haven't heard from her, I'm in no position so say she's a wolf.

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No offense taken, it's a reasonable feeling. You want to trust those who try to get things figured out and see who our culprits are. I hope my innocence will be shown in the days to come.

I don't know the reason behind Kuru and phantom in trying to steer opinion, but mine is quite simple. We need to find what the wolves strategies are and I'm trying to help in doing that. I simply offering ideas in what possibly wolves would do, you may either take it or leave it. And I suggest that if you think you got better ideas than please bring them up. Working as a colaborate group can get us through this.

Now my thoughts of course anyone could be a werewolf, you can't trust anyone at this point. Only the Seer can find out who's innocent and who's not. But here's what I think so far.

I'm not too suspicious of Perky, Phantom, Kuru, or Spawn at this point. My reasoning is I don't think the wolves would jump out of the gate early. I think they would tend more to lay back and try to sort of tag along to people, as long as they aren't the one's being suspected or are in danger. Though, I'm not saying none of the above aren't wolves, but right now I feel pretty safe that the ones above aren't wolves.

As I said, I think wolves would like to tag along in the beginning. Not saying much, just kind of going along with what everyone says. Now the problem is these could be wolves tagging along, or could be a villager that buy's into what others say. So right now, a little more suspicious, yet nothing really concrete or definite...

Kitanna
Lalaith
Celuien
Cailin
Azaelia
Marcolie, I buy what she has recently said as of right now.

So that leaves Gil-galad, Wayne, and Glirdan. These right now our my most suspicious, and even if they are, it does not mean they're a guaranteed lock for my vote. There's still a lot of day left and this early on I'm unsure about anything. For reasons I've stated prior and others that have been said.

Ok, that catches up on what I think about the events when I was gone.
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Old 09-18-2005, 01:24 PM   #12
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I am sorry I havent posted that much I had to go to church.I have no suspicons yet but I growing more and more sucpicous of gil.Why because of he post he put he was sad about wilwa then he started talking about kitana.
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Old 09-18-2005, 01:45 PM   #13
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White Tree hmm..what to think

I agree with all of those saying that Zali shouldn't be lynched yet. She hasn't said anything either way so on the first day she shouldn't be the one lynched unless it is necessary.

Looking through the list of people some jump out as to those who have posted alot...and noticable posts....bolded

1.Anguirel
2.Azealia of Willowbottom
3.Boromir88
4.Cailěn
5.Celuien

6.Dancing Spawn of Ungoliant

7.Eonwe
8.Gil-Galad
9.Glirdan

10.Kitanna

11.Kuruharan

12.Lalaith
13.Márcolië Lamen
--obviously I recognize myself posting so not saying anything.
14.The Perky Ent
15.the phantom

16.WaynetheGoblin


I think at least one of these who are here the most is a wolf, out of the idea of keeping one active and others not so much so.

At the same time, I think at least one of the others is also a wolf.

Those italisized are those who according to others have been really tagging along so far. These are slightly suspicious actions always. Again, I think one is a wolf. I'm including myself even though I know myself to be innocent because otherwise I fit in the catagory.

Underlining those I am slightly more suspicious than the others, especially for a first day... these reasons include


Anguirel- unhelpfulness
Cailěn and Celuien- manage to be bland but also argue. Seems like they could be working together or one could be taking advantage of the other
Glirdan-strong defence of self, seems to be jumping at oppertunities
WaynetheGoblin- low apperence


Nothing about who I'm voting for is locked up but here is my thoughts as of now.

Because it is the first day its important to keep all those strong stratagists I think, its worth risking they're a wolf for at least one night because its a pull out of the hat and if they're villagers then they're the most helpful later on.

Beyond that, no ideas on who to vote to lynch, lets see how it plays out...too bad we must lynch one of our own before having idea of who it is doing this atrocity to us, unless we can manage to find one we'll just be bringing our own numbers down, and this seems too likely tonight.

edit: just mentioning cross-posted with spawn and wayne
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Old 09-18-2005, 01:24 PM   #14
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I simply cannot wait any longer. I'm irritated because I can't be around until the nightfall but no can do.

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If you are not contented with my behaviour, then vote for me.
Well, I must do what I'm told to do.

++GLIRDAN

Seriously, we have less material than what I had hoped. Everyone else should vote in a way that seems best to them though I agree with Kuru that voting for Azaelia might be waste of time and blood.

Okay, that's all. May the force be with you or something.
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I got good news, I'm back earlier than I thought I'd be. Well mostly because I was supposed to work at this start of the hockey season celebration party...I got there, got everything set up to go, and turns out boss said I could go that we had plenty of help. So, I'm back, and I will read through the posts to catch up on what's been happening.

P.S., on something totally unrelated, Glirdan if you wish to go ahead and do the votes for the LOTR survivor you still may do so, as that was plan. If not just tell me and I'll do it.
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Spicy? You got the spicy platter? I'm so very sorry. That plate was meant for Gil-Galad. You were suppost to get the roasted chestnuts and sherry. Very sorry indeed!

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Can you elaborate on that a little. I think by gifteds, you mean werewolves, but i'm not entirely sure as to what's going on at the moment. Maybe i've been using too much parsnip.

EDIT: Wow. Three pages and not a single lynch yet. Me thinks this will be a very interesting game
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Can you elaborate on that a little. I think by gifteds, you mean werewolves, but i'm not entirely sure as to what's going on at the moment. Maybe i've been using too much parsnip.
Gifteds = Seer/Ranger/Hunter

Where are Wayne, Gil and Azaelia...
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Once again, remember the time issue. For some peole, wherever they may be, it could be night. Some people may still be asleep. Others might have things to do but will be on for the voting. Just something to keep in mind (again)

And for those gifted, would this included the cursed?
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Not exactly.

Speaking of The Perky Ent...

...some of his behavior might be construed as an attempt to beat some of the Gifteds out of the bush.

However, at the moment I'm not inclined to think he's guilty either.
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Yes it would seem that way, wouldn't it? I'm just trying to get a hold on who's who as fast as I can, so that I can end this wolfish nightmare! ***slips between First person Real Life and 3rd Person RPG style*** Sorry for the confusion. According to my clock (which i've been having trouble wish), we have around 6 hours to find a coulpret. Still, it is too early to make acusasions. If only more would speak up. Like someone said before, I don't think Glirdan is a werewolf, but merely someone who is caught up in the confusion. Kitanna is starting to register on my radar. She seems too...well...maybe too rash. I'm not sure I need more chicken. Now let's see... *delves into "An Expert Guide in Experimental Cooking*
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Old 09-18-2005, 12:02 PM   #21
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I'm not a werewolf so this reputed "Kuruharan, phantom, Boromir88" triad is already burst. Can't speak for the phantom or Boromir though, and I don't trust them either.

In the realm of poking around in order to be annoying:

Cailín and Celuien (I should call them the two Cs or something) bear watching, if for no other reason that they are so bland and have not attracted any attention. They make me uneasy and one (although probably not both {even though that might be possible}) might very well be a werewolf.

Also I think Márcolië Lamen may be on to something in finding Anguirel unhelpfulness to be...unhelpful.
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Well...i'm not a werewolf either. I'm sure that helps. *insert sarcasm here* I think it is possible that one of the two C's are werewolves. I'm gonna try and get closer to a verdict on some people. Kuruharan was, in the beginning, at the top of my radar, but now he's starting to bounch back and forth from my suspicions. The thought of Boromir being a werewolf scares me. Kitaana seems a little hostile, as does Glirdan. I'm gonna have to read through this thread one more time. And yes, I probably am comming off as repetitive and overly helpful. I'll cut back on the turkey
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In the realm of poking around in order to be annoying:

Cailín and Celuien (I should call them the two Cs or something) bear watching, if for no other reason that they are so bland and have not attracted any attention. They make me uneasy and one (although probably not both {even though that might be possible}) might very well be a werewolf.
This might actually be a strategy I'd approve of. They're dull, let's accuse them? Maybe they spend all their excitingness at night?

Honestly, Kuru, I cannot defend myself in any other way than you just did yourself. I am not a wolf. I'm really a no-special girl here. Celuien alarmed me right from the beginning though, because of his (or is it her?) insisting to be as loud as possible. Even though it looks like he makes valid points in this discussion, he's mostly just repeating the phantom, spawn and some others he listed as valuable. Not that I think we should all vote for him, nor do I really suspect him. I'll just be watching closely.

Zali's absense is beginning to disturb me. Maybe she has been eaten, too?
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Márcolië, your answer makes you look more innocent to me but I know that you're wise enough not to make a fuss about my accusations, especially after people have pointed out that Glirdan's self defense seemed a bit too heated. So, I'm still keeping an eye on you - just like on everyone else, too.

I don't have much time left before I have to go. I think it's unfair that we may have to cast our votes without hearing of everybody. I understand that some people have unpredictable problems and therefore can't show up but still... *some muttering about commitment*
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