Werewolf IX: the Saga Owns You and You Know It

[Folwren]

Wow, this is looking really bad for not only myself but also for the entire village.

Look, people, I don't know if this is legal or if it's totally against the laws of the game or the laws of the Barrow Downs itself, but I swear upon all that I hold true, that I am innocent. I'll go to court (our lawyer died, unfortuntely) and say it with my hand on a Bible.

Everybody that's posted since Holby's long post against me has said that they think me extremely suspicious and will vote for me. I'm as good as dead if things stand as they are. It will be a bad, bad, bad mistake for you to lynch me.

As Menel said, if you kill an innocent today (which would be the case if you killed me), there's very little liklihood that the villagers will come out the winners.

Before I go, I'd like to explain two things -

I did suspect Alcarillo after TGWBS's death, but that was also adding onto what I'd thought of him the day before. I did not think that the wolves would set something up like that merely because if I had been them, I wouldn't have. I would have been oblivious to the fact that he might be suspected if Guy were killt.

I did not vote last night because I didn't get on the computer after something like two o'clock and I thought I'd be able to get back and vote before leaving for the dance. As it is, I left the computer at two thirty (I posted then, remember?) and then went out to work with my two year old horse. I worked with him until three-twenty, at which time, I took all three horses out to pasture. On our way back, my brother told me that there was thirty pounds of grain lying out on the ground in the corral and the horses were going right down to it to eat it. To leave it there would be murdering my three horses, so I went down and shoveled it all out of there. When I got back, it was four. I had to shower and eat dinner before leaving at four-thirty for our English Country Dance. I got home at ten thirty.

And that's my explenation for last night's absence. I had a good reason for not voting on Day 1, too.............Ah, yes, I told you then. The family went to the river for the afternoon. Left around three o'clock and I didn't get a chance to post before that. Didn't get back until after eight.

If you kill me, do so for some other reason than for not voting, because when I'm dead, you'll want to think you lynched me for something better than that.

-- Folwren

P.S. Oh, I still really, super suspect Wayne.

[Cailín]

Okay. After Wilwa and Wayne's rash posts, I started to reconsider. Everyone seems so eager to be rid of Folwren, there has to be wolfishness involved. Of course, the wolves would make themselves just as suspicious by refusing, but I fear Folwren might be not the right choice tonight (little to do with his/her spirited defence of himself, I might add).

I'm never going to get support for Shelob but there's another one some of us would lynch. And that would be Menel. Now, Menel would not be my first choice but I am willing to go along with it, since he has provided us with nothing but quite a shady defence at least.

This will not make me look any better, I fear, and I still think Folwren could be the wolf we're looking for. But since I neither trust Wilwa nor Wayne and they are both so quickly to jump on the band-wagon, I dare not vote Folwren tonight. I think Menel would be the better option, specially since it will say a lot about Kath's and Shelob's positions.

What say you?

[wilwarin538]

But since I neither trust Wilwa nor Wayne and they are both so quickly to jump on the band-wagon,

Hold on a sec. I am not bandwagoning about Folwren. I was suspicious of her yesterday, and probably should have voted for her, but I didn't and I wish I had, since Gil ended up innocent.

Wayne I agree is bandwagoning, he sems to always just shoot out the names that have been said the most and then doesn't give a reason for them.

I'm not to sure about Menel, never have been. Sometimes I think he's suspicious and other times I don't think he is.

By the way I remember someone(not sue who) said I've only voted for only innocents. That's not really true. I voted for Glirdan and I believe my vote on Day 1 saved an innocent. But yeah you are right I have voted for a few innocents, and I feel terrible, but I'm not the only one I'm sure.

[wilwarin538]

To be honest, I think I would prefer to lynch Wayne, and then, if he is innocent we'll almost know that Folwren is a wolf and we can lynch her tomorrow. Whereas, if we lynch Folwren today, whatever the outcome, it won't help us much with Wayne and we'll just have to go through all of this again tomorrow.

I personally think that this is a good idea. I am willing to go with it. If Wayne is a wolf, which I am beginning to think is the case, then we'll be even better off.

(EDIT: crossposted with Shelob, I guess she won't be going along with your plan then Kath. )

[Holbytlass]

While I empathise with not getting to the village square on time to cast a vote due to extenuating circumstances, it has become too much of a habit, it has been stated numerous times that we would prefer an early vote than none at all.
I am still suspicious of Folwren but would consider kath's plan since I do trust her.

[Cailín]

@ Wilwa: Glirdan is as good as an innocent in my current arguments, for the wolves have no idea who the bear is and Glirdan is as good as innocent to them. Glirdan being the bear was lucky. According to me.

Yes, Folwren does provide quite a defence, though I'm not sure about the whole bible thing.

Wayne might be a fine choice too, since he does not really contribute anyway. I think we cannot excuse him for being new any longer and maybe he has fooled us long enough with that. We can get Folwren to support Wayne, Kath... Shelob probably as well and Wilwa might too. That's already a majority, so Wayne might be an option a lot of us would be satisfied with.

The problem is... I really can't convince myself he's a wolf. I can't. He's too much like Gil.

But: those of us who are innocents just don't know. And we have to make a decision - sooner or later.

Edit: cross-post, so guess Shelob did not like the plan.

[Kath]

Well Shelob has already voted so we'll have to leave her out of this.

Supporters for lynching Wayne sa of now are:
Kath
Wilwa
Cailin
Holby

So we need to hear from:
Wayne
Menel
Folwren

[wilwarin538]

So we need to hear from:
Wayne
Menel
Folwren

I have a feeling Wayne might be against your plan Kath. If atleast Menel agrees, which he probably will, then we can all vote.

Actually I will just vote now:

++WaynetheGoblin

[Kath]

Durelin! I am so sorry I completely forgot you!

Well now this means that in support we have:
Kath
Durelin
Wilwa
Cailin
Holby

And have only to hear from:
Wayne
Menel
Folwren

And if all those in support vote now we'll be sure to lynch Wayne anyway. Agreed?

[Durelin]

I now just hope that Kath isn't a wolf.

*smacks head*

[WaynetheGoblin]

I still think Folwren is a wolf. But at the same time I think menel is a wolf. I have been thinking menel has been a wolf since day 1. Folwern I have a very bad feeling about you. If I did vote I would go for folwern so ++FOLWREN.

[Kath]

I have been thinking menel has been a wolf since day 1

Since when!?!

Anyway, in the hope that this will all go to plan and those that said they would vote Wayne now will:

++WAYNETHEGOBLIN

[Cailín]

All right. Let's hope for the best.

++WAYNETHEGOBLIN

[Kath]

Damn she's good! I was almost convinced there and I'm really not sure now if she is the right person to lynch! Everyone suspects her but that is almost a bad thing. Wayne and wilwa are now giving me real pause for thought as they both but especially Wayne appeared simply to say they agreed and that was it! I quite believe Wayne to be a wolf now and that also is making me feel that perhaps Folwren is not, as it would be strange for one wolf to completely attack another.

We don't have many choices here. We can all vote together and lynch Folwren, we can all vote together and lynch Wayne (as I believe many of you are also suspicious of him), we can try to create a double lynching situation but that is difficult to ensure and if one of them is innocent that's the rest of us dead as we'll have greatly improved the wolves odds, or we can all vote our own separate way and see what happens.

I would prefer one of the first two options but I truly can't choose which. That little defence of Folwrens' just rang so true that I'm having real trouble believing her to be guilty. I hate that, I have to go completely back on all I've said. To be honest, I think I would prefer to lynch Wayne, and then, if he is innocent we'll almost know that Folwren is a wolf and we can lynch her tomorrow. Whereas, if we lynch Folwren today, whatever the outcome, it won't help us much with Wayne and we'll just have to go through all of this again tomorrow.

I'm sorry to have suddenly appeared with this but until that last post of Folwren's I was very sure that she was guilty, but now!

Please, tell me what you think and which course of action you would prefer to go with just so we all know where we stand, and please, don't vote until you have. I'll come check this every time someone posts so if everyone can get in fast enough we could at least make sure we agree on what we're doing.

EDIT: Cross posted with Cailin and while Menel would still be my first choice I don't believe that there will be enough support for his lynching, and it would still not tell us as much as I think Wayne's would as only myself and Shelob ever speak of him and we need to know about Folwren.

[Shelob]

please, don't vote until you have.

It should probably be "have to", and in either case I must vote now *shakes fist at school*.

++FOlWREN

Why you ask. Because I've still got a bad feeling about her and (even with Cailin's most recent post) I doubt we'll get enough support to lynch Meneltarmacil.

I agree that Wayne is really suspicious but as it stands I can see more against Folwren than against him (probably 'cause Folwren posts while Wayne doesn't, therefore leaving nothing to work with).

Do with my vote as you please but it's too early for my liking, too much of a guess.

Luck to you all, I'll be back well after this DAY ends but until then I hope we're right. *insert desperate smiley*

[Durelin]

Please forgive me for my absence. It was forced labor that kept me away.

I think we need to take a second look at Shelob. He/she seems very ready too lynch Folwren. But, I'm not really ready to lynch anyone, though someone has to be lynched, so...maybe being more decisive than I is a good thing.

Also...a Folwren - Durelin team was briefly mentioned. Absolutely suspicious, I know. They both couldn't vote yesterday. They have been suspicious of each other. You might be on to something there.

Wayne's bandwagoning to the extreme, and he's being...well, excuse my hypocrisy and forthrightedness, but he's been pretty useless when it comes to getting anything figured out.

I'm really tempted to vote for Wayne, and just this once, I am going to give into temptation.

++WaynetheGoblin

Might seem like I'm defending Folwren, but...well, everyone's deserving of their own opinion...

[Holbytlass]

Originally Posted by Durelin

Also...a Folwren - Durelin team was briefly mentioned. Absolutely suspicious, I know. They both couldn't vote yesterday. They have been suspicious of each other. You might be on to something there.

What's this?! A Freudian slip? Bears looking at tomorrow.

++WaynetheGoblin

[WaynetheGoblin]

Just like that im not lasting a nother day whell this will be my final post on this werewolf game good bye.