Tol-in-Gaurhoth (Isle of Werewolves) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

wilwarin538 · 08-29-2005, 03:03 PM

I'm against mass lynchings, its not as much fun.

I also think votes should be non-retractable, makes people think a little harder about who to vote for.

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-29-2005, 04:54 PM

This thread now seems to be going round and round in circles.

Either mass lynchings are allowed or they're not. If they are allowed then they are a legitimate tactic. If not, then they are not. It's as simple as that. And it's up to Enca to decide. I think that more than enough ideas and opinions have been offered as to how they might be made impossible, impractical or unattractive.

Let's just leave it to Enca to make the final decision.

Glirdan · 08-29-2005, 06:16 PM

Just to add my two cents in, I think that mass lynchings would really, as TGWBS puts it, de-paranoia the villagers, and I like to be paranoid. But as I said before, I'm all for having it in or out. Rather it out though, just so I can be paranoid.

The Only Real Estel · 08-29-2005, 06:46 PM

Not that my opinion should matter much here because I'm not even playing the game but I'm not a real big fan of mass lynchings. Double lynchings are one thing & lynching three people might be okay, but if you open the door to a huge, elaborate, eight person mass lynching that guarantees the villagers the win it takes a lot of the fun out of the game for me.

Either way I agree with everyone else that it should be up to whoever is the moderator for each game.

Gurthang · 08-29-2005, 09:09 PM

Well, Enca is the one who is deciding, but I think I shall comment anyway. I am personally in favor of the mass lynching ideas. It adds so much strategy to the game, as Saucepan Man mentioned above. And I don't mean just strategy of the villagers about when or if they should.

For instance, I was the first one to bring up the mass lynching idea in WW8. I did so to try to do three things: 1) have the villagers shoot down my idea so that they would not do a mass lynching. 2) try to make the villagers think me innocent for bring it up. 3) if the first two failed, I was trying to find a way to force a stalemate by killing everyone(which almost succeeded).

The possibilities are almost endless. In short, keeping mass lynchings in the game does not give advantage to either side, and I think the fact that I was a Werecreature in the last game and brought up the idea means anyone in the future who brings it up will be brought under suspicion.

By the way: whoever ends up being the WereBear, I'll be rooting for you and adding your kills to our total.

Folwren · 08-30-2005, 08:01 AM

Ye're entirely right, Saucie...the thread is going round in circles. Will it be necessary for me to check this before the game starts, or are we only going to be considering the mass lynching problems until then?

Don't bother to answer - I'll keep my eye on it.

I have no opinion on rules and how the game should be played. I'll leave that in the hands of the mod and go along with what ever's decided. I'm pretty complying on my first time round in a game.

- Folwren

SamwiseGamgee · 08-30-2005, 08:57 AM

Nice when people heed your advice, eh Saucepan Man?

mormegil · 09-01-2005, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Enca: I will be on vacation from Sunday, August 28 to Thursday, September 1.

If there is anybody else out there who looked at Enca's last active date and wondered where she was. Normally she's fairly active (daily I believe) so an absence took me off guard but it is well enough explained now.

Encaitare · 09-01-2005, 07:11 PM

Sorry to keep you eager players waiting!

Let's clear up the last few issues before I send out the roles.

1. Replacing arcticstorm and Nonnacedak will be Nilpaurion Felagund and Morsul the Dark, since their requests were put in first.

2. Multiple lynchings are not forbidden. That is, to say, they are allowed. But I don't want to see, for example, everyone but a Shirriff who has revealed him/herself lynching themselves in a circle. Come on, guys, that's barely victory. If votes are tied for the DAY, both people will be lynched. *puts on a stern face* Remember, this is not a right, but a privelege.

3. The Cobbler will be aiding both the Werewolves and the Werebear, just because s/he hates the rest of you oh-so-much. This will at least give the Cobbler something to do if all the Wolves are slain.

Any further questions that I can help with? If they're general, post them here; if they're more specific (ie: pertaining to your role), please PM me. Don't worry -- unlike the Werecreatures, I don't bite...

Encaitare · 09-01-2005, 08:42 PM

Apologies for the double post, but a new list of players has been requested, and I must oblige.

1. Folwren - blacksmith
2. Shelob - student of the Ancient and Long-Dead Gadian Language; a llama famer on the side
3. Holbytlass - seller of "zoo-doo" fertilizer
4. the guy who be short - politician
5. Meneltarmacil - zookeeper
6. WaynetheGoblin - dentist
7. wilwarin538 - tailor
8. Alcarillo - mayor
9. Durelin - Mistress of 1337
10. Saucepan Man - mushroom harvester
11. Kath - gardener
12. the phantom - apothecary
13. Azaelia of Willowbottom - flower-selling lass
14. Cailín - constant crocheter
15. Nilpaurion Felagund
16. Morsul the Dark
17. mormegil - merchant
18. Gil-Galad - lawyer, has a pet bird
19. SamwiseGamgee - philosophical badger farmer
20. Glirdan - cheese seller
21. Bergil - very bad carpenter

Since we all want to get this thing going, NIGHT 1 will commence at approximately 7:30 EST tomorrow (Friday, Sept. 2). Also, I'd like to give a couple of reminders: votes may not be withdrawn. Don't forget to set your account to Invisible Mode (User CP --> Edit Options --> "Use Invisible Mode" --> Save Changes). I have done this as well. And, if you do not post an occupation by the time I start the game tomorrow, I will make one up for you.

All the roles have been PMed out! I can't wait to begin.

08-29-2005, 03:03 PM	#1
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	I'm against mass lynchings, its not as much fun. I also think votes should be non-retractable, makes people think a little harder about who to vote for. __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin

08-29-2005, 04:54 PM	#2
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	This thread now seems to be going round and round in circles. Either mass lynchings are allowed or they're not. If they are allowed then they are a legitimate tactic. If not, then they are not. It's as simple as that. And it's up to Enca to decide. I think that more than enough ideas and opinions have been offered as to how they might be made impossible, impractical or unattractive. Let's just leave it to Enca to make the final decision. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

08-29-2005, 06:16 PM	#3
Glirdan Energetic Essence Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Where Lark Nor Eagle Ever Flew Posts: 3,285	Just to add my two cents in, I think that mass lynchings would really, as TGWBS puts it, de-paranoia the villagers, and I like to be paranoid. But as I said before, I'm all for having it in or out. Rather it out though, just so I can be paranoid. __________________ *I'm going to buy you a kitty, I'm going to let you fall in love with the kitty, and one cold, winter night, I'm going to steal into your house and punch you in the face!* Fenris Wolf

08-29-2005, 06:46 PM	#4
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	chipping in Not that my opinion should matter much here because I'm not even playing the game but I'm not a real big fan of mass lynchings. Double lynchings are one thing & lynching three people might be okay, but if you open the door to a huge, elaborate, eight person mass lynching that guarantees the villagers the win it takes a lot of the fun out of the game for me. Either way I agree with everyone else that it should be up to whoever is the moderator for each game.

08-29-2005, 09:09 PM	#5
Gurthang Sword of Spirit Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Oh, I'm around. Posts: 1,401	Well, Enca is the one who is deciding, but I think I shall comment anyway. I am personally in favor of the mass lynching ideas. It adds so much strategy to the game, as Saucepan Man mentioned above. And I don't mean just strategy of the villagers about when or if they should. For instance, I was the first one to bring up the mass lynching idea in WW8. I did so to try to do three things: 1) have the villagers shoot down my idea so that they would not do a mass lynching. 2) try to make the villagers think me innocent for bring it up. 3) if the first two failed, I was trying to find a way to force a stalemate by killing everyone(which almost succeeded). The possibilities are almost endless. In short, keeping mass lynchings in the game does not give advantage to either side, and I think the fact that I was a Werecreature in the last game and brought up the idea means anyone in the future who brings it up will be brought under suspicion. By the way: whoever ends up being the WereBear, I'll be rooting for you and adding your kills to our total. __________________ I'm on a Mission from God.

08-30-2005, 08:01 AM	#6
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Ye're entirely right, Saucie...the thread is going round in circles. Will it be necessary for me to check this before the game starts, or are we only going to be considering the mass lynching problems until then? Don't bother to answer - I'll keep my eye on it. I have no opinion on rules and how the game should be played. I'll leave that in the hands of the mod and go along with what ever's decided. I'm pretty complying on my first time round in a game. - Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

08-30-2005, 08:57 AM	#7
SamwiseGamgee Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In the warm bosom of a Warg Posts: 378	Nice when people heed your advice, eh Saucepan Man? __________________ -- Well, I'm back.

09-01-2005, 07:11 PM	#9
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	I return in triumph! Sorry to keep you eager players waiting! Let's clear up the last few issues before I send out the roles. 1. Replacing arcticstorm and Nonnacedak will be Nilpaurion Felagund and Morsul the Dark, since their requests were put in first. 2. Multiple lynchings are not forbidden. That is, to say, they are allowed. But I don't want to see, for example, everyone but a Shirriff who has revealed him/herself lynching themselves in a circle. Come on, guys, that's barely victory. If votes are tied for the DAY, both people will be lynched. puts on a stern face Remember, this is not a right, but a privelege. 3. The Cobbler will be aiding both the Werewolves and the Werebear, just because s/he hates the rest of you oh-so-much. This will at least give the Cobbler something to do if all the Wolves are slain. Any further questions that I can help with? If they're general, post them here; if they're more specific (ie: pertaining to your role), please PM me. Don't worry -- unlike the Werecreatures, I don't bite... Last edited by Encaitare; 09-01-2005 at 07:13 PM. Reason: I tried to make an official list and it just didn't work...

09-01-2005, 08:42 PM	#10
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Apologies for the double post, but a new list of players has been requested, and I must oblige. 1. Folwren - blacksmith 2. Shelob - student of the Ancient and Long-Dead Gadian Language; a llama famer on the side 3. Holbytlass - seller of "zoo-doo" fertilizer 4. the guy who be short - politician 5. Meneltarmacil - zookeeper 6. WaynetheGoblin - dentist 7. wilwarin538 - tailor 8. Alcarillo - mayor 9. Durelin - Mistress of 1337 10. Saucepan Man - mushroom harvester 11. Kath - gardener 12. the phantom - apothecary 13. Azaelia of Willowbottom - flower-selling lass 14. Cailín - constant crocheter 15. Nilpaurion Felagund 16. Morsul the Dark 17. mormegil - merchant 18. Gil-Galad - lawyer, has a pet bird 19. SamwiseGamgee - philosophical badger farmer 20. Glirdan - cheese seller 21. Bergil - very bad carpenter Since we all want to get this thing going, NIGHT 1 will commence at approximately 7:30 EST tomorrow (Friday, Sept. 2). Also, I'd like to give a couple of reminders: votes may not be withdrawn. Don't forget to set your account to Invisible Mode (User CP --> Edit Options --> "Use Invisible Mode" --> Save Changes). I have done this as well. And, if you do not post an occupation by the time I start the game tomorrow, I will make one up for you. All the roles have been PMed out! I can't wait to begin. Last edited by Encaitare; 09-02-2005 at 11:00 AM.