friendship challenges - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Dimturiel · 08-14-2005, 11:12 AM

One of the most impresives scenes, as far as friendship and loyality are concerned, is the one when Aragorn says: "For Frodo." and the first to follow him are Merry and Pippin. It is so sweet! Also, I like the scene from the inn from ROTK when the four Hobbits are sitting together. It always brings tears to my eyes.

Evisse the Blue · 08-14-2005, 12:17 PM

I agree about the Legolas-Gimli relationship being depicted well.
Also, the scene with the hobbits in the bar at the end of ROTK- that is such a well done scene in my opinion! It shows the hobbits a bit apart from the rest of the people in the bar, which by contrast, underlines their friendship with each other. Only they know what they went through, and this knowledge brings them together. But at the same time, they're still the kind of friends they were before they set out, ready to rejoice in drinking an ale (compare with scene in FOTR in the bar).
Also another friendship that stood out for me is (don't laugh) Boromir and Aragorn. This mostly works because of Aragorn's brilliant skills in dealing with people. His modesty as a character in the movie really pays off when it comes to this relationship. Meaning, Aragorn from the book and Boromir from the book didn't get along so well together, they were always a bit cold and at a constant disagreement. Of course, Boromir from the movie was far more good natured that Boromir in the book.

There are scenes like the one in Lothorien, when they talk together, or when they just sit together, talking and smoking, in Moria, waiting for Gandalf that tells you they're good friends; so it doesn't come as far fetched to see Aragorn cry when Boromir dies.

Elrian · 08-14-2005, 01:35 PM

When Sam tells Frodo: I can't carry the Ring but I can carry you.

Folwren · 08-15-2005, 08:31 PM

Cool topic, but from a fairly old start. I'm glad it was resurected, because I wasn't around when most people posted.

Since all three movies are out, I guess no one will mind if I pull from all three.

The part that really affects me the most is atually in the FotR...it was mentioned a lot already in this thread, but it's an awesome part in the movie - when Sam goes out to Frodo in the Anduin. And it when he did it, it wasn't 'I can try to go, or I can actually stay here and do as he says, but, no, I ought to go', it was more like 'I've got to get to Frodo...he can't go without me. He'd die!' I don't believe there was a thought of himself in that act. No choice, in his mind.

In the RotK when he comes back through Shelob's Lair and fights Shelob for him. It was pretty much the same mind set, I think.

And again in the RotK, after the ring was destroyed and they were on a rock. Sam finally thinks of himself and starts crying because he loved Rosie, and Frodo crawls over to him and puts an arm about his shoulders. That part is so sweet. Frodo's himself again, and he's close to Sam once more.

I would be more eloquent on this matter, I'm sure, but it's too late to do something like that.

-Folwren

sassyfriend · 09-29-2011, 07:35 PM

Boromir and Aragorn: you can tell that as time goes on these two start respecting each other more and more even when they don't agree about the ring. It is Aragorn that Boromir confides in about his failing home and you can see he's been crying about it but he dosen't try to hide the fact from Aragorn. You can tell Aragorn is deeply concerned for him but isn't sure what to say or do. Same with the time they end up in an arument over the fact that Aragorn dosen't trust humans which the older man takes as Boromir wanting the ring again which is not what the younger man is saying at all. You can tell by the look on Boromir's face he wants to kill him cause he's so frustrated with his friend. Lastly Boromir's death scene you can see their friendship has come full circle they both fully understand each other now. Very touching and moving.

08-14-2005, 11:12 AM	#1
Dimturiel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2005 Location: the road less travelled by Posts: 910	One of the most impresives scenes, as far as friendship and loyality are concerned, is the one when Aragorn says: "For Frodo." and the first to follow him are Merry and Pippin. It is so sweet! Also, I like the scene from the inn from ROTK when the four Hobbits are sitting together. It always brings tears to my eyes. __________________ Is this the end? No more the hunt, the journey and the goal? That terrifies me most: no more the goal! -Ray Bradbury, Leviathan '99

08-14-2005, 12:17 PM	#2
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	I agree about the Legolas-Gimli relationship being depicted well. Also, the scene with the hobbits in the bar at the end of ROTK- that is such a well done scene in my opinion! It shows the hobbits a bit apart from the rest of the people in the bar, which by contrast, underlines their friendship with each other. Only they know what they went through, and this knowledge brings them together. But at the same time, they're still the kind of friends they were before they set out, ready to rejoice in drinking an ale (compare with scene in FOTR in the bar). Also another friendship that stood out for me is (don't laugh) Boromir and Aragorn. This mostly works because of Aragorn's brilliant skills in dealing with people. His modesty as a character in the movie really pays off when it comes to this relationship. Meaning, Aragorn from the book and Boromir from the book didn't get along so well together, they were always a bit cold and at a constant disagreement. Of course, Boromir from the movie was far more good natured that Boromir in the book. There are scenes like the one in Lothorien, when they talk together, or when they just sit together, talking and smoking, in Moria, waiting for Gandalf that tells you they're good friends; so it doesn't come as far fetched to see Aragorn cry when Boromir dies. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

08-14-2005, 01:35 PM	#3
Elrian Eldar Spirit of Truth Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Land of the FREE, Home of the BRAVE Posts: 794	RotK When Sam tells Frodo: I can't carry the Ring but I can carry you. __________________ ~Call me a relic, call me what you will. Say I'm old fashioned , say I'm over the hill. That old whine ain't got no soul. I'll stick to Old Toby and a Hobbit hole.~

08-15-2005, 08:31 PM	#4
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Cool topic, but from a fairly old start. I'm glad it was resurected, because I wasn't around when most people posted. Since all three movies are out, I guess no one will mind if I pull from all three. The part that really affects me the most is atually in the FotR...it was mentioned a lot already in this thread, but it's an awesome part in the movie - when Sam goes out to Frodo in the Anduin. And it when he did it, it wasn't 'I can try to go, or I can actually stay here and do as he says, but, no, I ought to go', it was more like 'I've got to get to Frodo...he can't go without me. He'd die!' I don't believe there was a thought of himself in that act. No choice, in his mind. In the RotK when he comes back through Shelob's Lair and fights Shelob for him. It was pretty much the same mind set, I think. And again in the RotK, after the ring was destroyed and they were on a rock. Sam finally thinks of himself and starts crying because he loved Rosie, and Frodo crawls over to him and puts an arm about his shoulders. That part is so sweet. Frodo's himself again, and he's close to Sam once more. I would be more eloquent on this matter, I'm sure, but it's too late to do something like that. -Folwren __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

09-29-2011, 07:35 PM	#5
sassyfriend Wight Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 165	Boromir and Aragorn: you can tell that as time goes on these two start respecting each other more and more even when they don't agree about the ring. It is Aragorn that Boromir confides in about his failing home and you can see he's been crying about it but he dosen't try to hide the fact from Aragorn. You can tell Aragorn is deeply concerned for him but isn't sure what to say or do. Same with the time they end up in an arument over the fact that Aragorn dosen't trust humans which the older man takes as Boromir wanting the ring again which is not what the younger man is saying at all. You can tell by the look on Boromir's face he wants to kill him cause he's so frustrated with his friend. Lastly Boromir's death scene you can see their friendship has come full circle they both fully understand each other now. Very touching and moving.