Werewolf IIX - Tra la la lally, here down in the Saga, ha ha!

[CaptainofDespair]

Hmm...suspicious.

Gurthang has caused me to raise an eyebrow. I shall ponder him and his thoughts. I doubt he should be worried about at the moment, however. He may be annoying, and an animal rights activist, but he does not appear too guilty, at least not yet. Time will tell.

Though, Durelin has given me a cause for worry, as she has eaten one of my shrews. We will see what part she has to play, if any.

I'd rather not randomly lynch someone, but Gurthang is the only one truly 'on my radar'.

[Mithalwen]

I have got to decide now and it isn't easy. I am afraid that I had always thought that if I had to make a random decision I would go for the person who posted first on the principle of "If you can't be fair, be arbitrary" . While I can see the sense in that his behaviour is too obvious, it is also possible that it is a double bluff. It is also possible that LMP is the Seer ( reason for the last minute sub?).
Many others also suspect him so, not having the luxury to wait and fearing personal consequences of not voting...

++ Gurthang

[Gurthang]

Mithalwen, that doesn't seem very fair to me, voting for me just because I posted first. I must also say that if you think LMP is the Seer, you really shouldn't point him out like that. If he is, and the wolves believe you, you just showed him to them.

This may sound like it's out of spite, but I am now suspicious of Mithalwen. She is voting for me on very unsteady grounds(cuz I was first to post). She's also posted twice as many times as anyone else, yet really hasn't said to much. Mostly just her musing to herself about the various roles in our village. Hmmm.

Still, I want to wait until others say what they think. It sounds like we won't hear from Mith again today; I'm not sure I'll vote for someone who hasn't had a chance to defend themselves.

[Meneltarmacil]

It may be that Mithalwen is a beaste or ye Cobbler, but at this pointe I don't see enough evidence to be certaine of thy suggestion, Gurthang. However, LMP might be in neede of some protection from nowe on. Or is he a Wolfe or Beare trying to look like ye Seere to avoide yon gallows? 'Tis a toughe situation.

[SamwiseGamgee]

Well, well, well, my friends. We are all becoming rather hysterical, aren't we? Can't you see that this is exactly what those foul beasts of destruction want, you fools! We must remain calm, as the man of many saucepans has said.

However, one must remain on one's toes. And so, to Mormegil I turn. Baseless accusations and rantings? This time, child, I shall put those down to rather too long spent in the presence of dangerous fumes, but let it be known: I'm keeping my eyes on you, laddy!

Gurthang, it appears you have explained yourself well, doesn't it. Were it not for a certain development I would be very close to casting my vote for you. But no. I think you are simply a misguided individual, not evil. So, this incident- what is it?

Mithalwen, you call for the death of Gurthang. Why? Your explanations do not wash with me, frankly, and I find your behaviour most suspicious. Are you not, in fact, simply voting for he with most fingers pointed in his direction in order to start a reaction? Yes, you'd like that, wouldn't you? Most suspicious, most suspicious indeed.

[wilwarin538]

This is terrible. Oddwen always was one of the only ones who was interrested in my research. I will miss her deeply.

At this moment I can't say I am ready to vote for anyone. I will be keeping my eyes on Mithalwen, her vote was strange and I believe Gurthang was just playing his role.

[Meneltarmacil]

Of those who voted for yon Animal Rights Activiste, I suspecte Mithalwen more than I do LMP, as her so-called "arbitrary" choice looketh a greate deale more like bandwagoning to myselfe. It doth indeede sound like foule play.

Whatever ye case may be, I believe we shouldst watch those who vote for Gurthang by ye ende of this Daye closely. Verily, I tell thee, verily a Wolfe or a Beare or both shall be among them, unless I am mistaken in my reasoning or they are refusing to bandwagon as it woulde cast suspicion upon them.

But as for nowe, I shall waite to vote until later this Daye.

[Alcarillo]

My suspicion is also now cast towards Mithalwen. Gurthang is just not suspicious enough for me, and I'm not risking killing off a seer by voting for LMP. Then again, anybody could be the seer, and this could just be a deceitful trick. Mithalwen seems to have drawn too much attention to herself. I am definitely thinking of voting for her, but I'm cautious to do so so early into the day. As with everybody else, I will wait.

Here's my suspicion list:

1. Mithalwen
2. LMP
3. Gurthang

[dancing spawn of ungoliant]

I'm speechless. Well, that might not be an entirely bad thing but really, I cannot make a proper case against anyone right now. Well, I could blame Durelin for a couple of reasons. She voted for Firefoot and now she's dead. She also tried to draw attention from Gurthang, Mithalwen & lmp but on the other hand, that's what I did on Day1, too.

As Saucy pointed out, Lalaith's suspicions towards Boromir & Gurthang are odd. She also kept asking if the Seer can reveal the Bear and her post #124 was somewhat weird. But I think she's rather the bear than a wolf.

Mithwolfwen said very early on the first day that "trying to guess the degree of bluff is just mindspinning. It may be an error to dig too deeply and ignore the obvious. Personally if push came to shove, I would vote in better conscience for someone who had acted suspiciously than someone who hadn't - in the absence of something more definite." Is this supposed to be a clue or was she just talking to make her post look longer?

Why do wolves want to kill somebody? 1) to frame someone up, 2) they think they've found the Seer, 3) they're bluffing

So, Morm and Firefoot were killed by wolves but even though I'm considering all the options above, I can't pinpoint any culprits. I'll post more later if I can sort out my thought.

[Firefoot]

I agree; Mithalwen's vote of Gurthang seems suspicious to me. While I can see why people might be suspicious of him, I think that he was just playing up his animal rights activist role. Mithalwen's vote doesn't seem like much other than a band-waggoning vote, and voting just because someone posted first doesn't seem fair. In fact, it seems less likely to me that a wolf would post first, not more. Now, I am not by any means saying that Gurthang is innocent; I just think that we need to look at our reasons for voting for people a little more closely.

Now that really is a random accusation ..... !!!! I have warned you about eating strong cheese late at night...... How can I defend myself against that? All I can say is that you have been saying the day when you produce gold will be dawning for years ...and it aint getting any lighter is it? Anyone with any sense knows you have to mine for gold... even dwarves know that ..... but no you think you can turn base metal into it without the effort of actually doing some hard work.

Also I might say it is a nice wolf trick to try and point the finger at someone who has announced she has to go imminently and cannot remain to defend herself. Trying to find an easy target to save yourself are you?

Does this defense of Mithalwen's sound a little over-hysterical to anyone else?

I'd say it's our primary goal to lynch the bear. As long as there are wolves and a bear around, we lose two good villagers a night (unless they attack each other).

This makes some sense to me. The problem is that the bear will probably have an easier time hiding since s/he, like most others, only know the role of his/herself and will honestly be looking to lynch the wolves. There will be no evidence of teamwork, etc.

[Lalaith]

Sooth, sooth, forsooth.
I've been reading and mulling over what all my fellow villagers have said and it tells me very little.
But my foresight tells me much - that this is just the beginning. And while we are still many, and most of us are innocents, we are alas unlikely to stumble upon the guilty so soon.
As for our chief suspect of the moment, I do not think it very were-ish behaviour to call attention to oneself so quickly, as Gurthang did. He may be a clever double-bluffing wolf but it would be a big gamble to take so early on.
The hasty voters have also laid themselves open to suspicion but this does not mean necessarily that they ARE suspicious.
I myself will wait a while to cast my vote.

[Boromir88]

Originally posted by Mith: Boromir also spoke swiftly.... given that this village has been so peaceful until now, it hasn't given him much in the way of employment opportunities, maybe he has been on a work creation scheme. And how does he know so much about bears...

Believe in what you may my dear Mith...also, I'm sorry but it doesn't take a microbiologist to figure out what bear prints look like.

Well, my Sauce Pan Man, I think it may be that I worded myself wrong. Of course I think we should go on a wolf-hunt, just not a chaotic one that sends masses of people to their wrongful death.

I'm not by anyway near casting my vote. Of course, I have a few suspicions, but I think it's good that we sit back and wait for everyone.

I will say Mithalwen's recent posts have come out to be a bit odd. In her reasoning for voting for Gurthang. Now, I have my own supsicions of Gurthang, but not simply because he posted first. May I ask you this...for the most part your first post makes sense, but there's one little phrase that gets me suspicious in your first post...

Maybe if we leave these werewolves alone, they will leave us alone.

I think it's been made quite clear that the wolves don't want to leave us alone, they're here to kill, so I hope this was just a suggestion?...Do you think this is a strategy that we should pursue?

[Gurthang]

Boromir, it is clear to me now that this village will not leave these werewolves alone. We have started a wolf-hunt, and it will not end until they are dead or we are. Which is what I feared. If it could have been possible to get the wolves to simply stop the killings, it would have saved many innocent lives. Yet now both we as villagers and them as wolves will be killing. Any possibility of a peaceful end is gone.

I must admit that in all my travels and defenses of animals, I've never come across werewolves before. In fact, the only time I've even heard of them was when they had already been destroyed by a village, or they had destroyed the village. I've always liked to be optimistic and believe that they are misunderstood. But according to what SamwiseGamgee says,

Origianlly posted by SamwiseGamgee
For most of my life I have toiled and worked to gain a better understanding of Wargs, and in doing so my path has often crossed that of a werewolf- not without a shudder running down my spine I hasten to add. One thing I have learned above all else, and this we must agree upon fellow friends of Hamlet: werewolves ARE NOT people. They are cold, vicious, systematic killers whose sole aim in life is to bring pain, misery and suffering upon all those they come across. The fact that by day they mascarade as friendly villagers cannot be allowed to dim our vision.

it seems that they will not be satisfied with just Oddwen's death.

I want to again stress that we should take our time in this matter. Not to say that we should just sit around and wait for them to kill us, but rather find credible evidence before we make descisions. I have received two quick votes already, the very thing I have been speaking against. Please, take your time before voting.