Tol-in-Gaurhoth VII (The Saga goes ever on and on) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

The Only Real Estel · 08-05-2005, 07:15 AM

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I was worried by Morm's rather arbitrary suspicion lists earlier on in the thread. Now that I think about it, TORE is a big fan of these lists too...

Not really. When lmp accused me of being too "wide-ranging" in my suspicions I've tried to clarify them - mostly in that one post with that one list.

More later.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 08-05-2005, 08:30 AM

A quick question: Who are the Cobbler suspects? As far as I can see, there is only Lhunardawen.

Of course, this is terribly biased. I am basing this on my own innocence and what I believe has been a lucid, coherent defence, yet she still persists in attacking me. She's trying to draw attention away from the wolves (now wolf). She's being very proactive, whereas I think the remaining wolf is keeping much quieter.

That's why I'm now reluctant to lynch her.

By the way, am I assuming too much with Enca and wilwa? That about which they cannot yet speak? I think we need some reassurance here.

Encaitare · 08-05-2005, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lhuna

A Freudian slip *hic*, eh?

No. A statement.

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Originally Posted by Eomer

Something you failed to mention Enca?

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Originally Posted by Eomer

I just spoke against her because of her comprehensive, yet still selective, collection of Kath's musings, which seemed pretty unfair to me.

I apologize. I was not trying to tip the scales, but merely to quickly summarize. I hope I did not miss anything else!

This will have to be my last post for toDay, so I shall vote

++mormegil

because he was who Kath suspected just before her death.

(By the way, I believe Wilwa said she'd be away for a few days, so that's why we have not heard from her.)

mormegil · 08-05-2005, 08:59 AM

If I die I think you ought to look closely at those who want me dead. Right now I am most convinced of Saurreg's guilt possibly Eomer but I feel the Lhuna is definately the cobbler.

The Only Real Estel · 08-05-2005, 09:43 AM

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I'd much rather kill Lhunardawen. I think she's probably the cobbler but I'd like to make sure. She's certainly more explicitly suspicious than Morm or Saurreg. Do away with her first!

I'd say there's a 90% chance that Lhuna will be the recipient of my vote, but I want to hold it until 11 or so, central time. Although I now see that this DAY started at 11:15 central time instead of noon, so I'm guessing the DAY will also end at 11:15? In that case I would probably vote a little before eleven, but I'm hoping for some clarification here.

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A quick question: Who are the Cobbler suspects? As far as I can see, there is only Lhunardawen.

Lhuna is the most obvious choice but there could be a cobbler hiding among us hoping to make his/her vote count in the last DAY. If that is the case & we kill a wolf today I think whoever the cobbler is would've done a poor job of fulfilling the role. If we can't get a wolf for a day or two than the cobbler suddenly becomes quite important & will have suceeded.

This is why I say lynch Lhuna. She could be the wolf hoping to hide behind suspicious actions & a "don't make the same mistake you did with Nilp" type of defense. She could be the cobbler, in which case we would still win by getting rid of her before she becomes important.

The Only Real Estel · 08-05-2005, 09:47 AM

Oh heck, I see no reason to hold my vote longer. I am more than reasonably sure that Lhuna is either a wolf or the cobbler, making this a win-win for the village.

++ Lhuna

edit: cross-posted with Eomer

edit2: 2000th post & it comes in a WW 'village', how fitting

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 08-05-2005, 09:45 AM

I might be on later, might not be. Can't risk it so I'd better vote now.

++MORMEGIL

He's pretty suspicious in my eyes. Kath was suspicious of him so here's hoping she was a good judge. I must admit that I am motivated by selfish reasons as well. There is a vote for me and there might be more coming. I suspect Morm much more than I suspect myself. Saurreg's reasoning seems pretty worthy of testing.

By the way Morm, if you think Lhuna is the Cobbler then why are you suspecting me? The Cobbler is meant to accuse whom he/she suspects to be innocent. Is Morm getting mixed up here? I think so.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 08-05-2005, 09:49 AM

Just saw Estel's post and I have to say he makes a lot of sense.

(More agreement between the two of us? We're obviously both wolves...)

There is more support for lynching Morm today. I certainly suggest that the village lynches Lhuna tomorrow.

The Only Real Estel · 08-05-2005, 09:51 AM

By the way, Eomer, I think you're last point about the cobbler isn't entirely correct. I would expect the cobbler to defend an innocent or attack a wolf in such a way that if the cobbler is lynched & discovered the village might lynch the innocent for a wolf or defend the wolf for an innocent. Hope that makes sense, it did before I tried to express it.

edit: cross-posting AGAIN, I suppose it's some sort of requirement that I have to cross-post with somebody...

edit2: since wilwa will probably not be able to vote (by her own admission) & double-lynchings are discouraged anyway I imagine the day will probably be cut short soon?

08-05-2005, 08:30 AM	#2
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	A quick question: Who are the Cobbler suspects? As far as I can see, there is only Lhunardawen. Of course, this is terribly biased. I am basing this on my own innocence and what I believe has been a lucid, coherent defence, yet she still persists in attacking me. She's trying to draw attention away from the wolves (now wolf). She's being very proactive, whereas I think the remaining wolf is keeping much quieter. That's why I'm now reluctant to lynch her. By the way, am I assuming too much with Enca and wilwa? That about which they cannot yet speak? I think we need some reassurance here. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond Last edited by Eomer of the Rohirrim; 08-05-2005 at 08:32 AM. Reason: I'm....not...sure.....How did I get here?

08-05-2005, 08:59 AM	#4
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	If I die I think you ought to look closely at those who want me dead. Right now I am most convinced of Saurreg's guilt possibly Eomer but I feel the Lhuna is definately the cobbler. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

08-05-2005, 09:47 AM	#6
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	Oh heck, I see no reason to hold my vote longer. I am more than reasonably sure that Lhuna is either a wolf or the cobbler, making this a win-win for the village. ++ Lhuna edit: cross-posted with Eomer edit2: 2000th post & it comes in a WW 'village', how fitting Last edited by The Only Real Estel; 08-05-2005 at 10:13 AM.

08-05-2005, 09:45 AM	#7
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	I might be on later, might not be. Can't risk it so I'd better vote now. ++MORMEGIL He's pretty suspicious in my eyes. Kath was suspicious of him so here's hoping she was a good judge. I must admit that I am motivated by selfish reasons as well. There is a vote for me and there might be more coming. I suspect Morm much more than I suspect myself. Saurreg's reasoning seems pretty worthy of testing. By the way Morm, if you think Lhuna is the Cobbler then why are you suspecting me? The Cobbler is meant to accuse whom he/she suspects to be innocent. Is Morm getting mixed up here? I think so. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

08-05-2005, 09:49 AM	#8
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Just saw Estel's post and I have to say he makes a lot of sense. (More agreement between the two of us? We're obviously both wolves...) There is more support for lynching Morm today. I certainly suggest that the village lynches Lhuna tomorrow. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

08-05-2005, 09:51 AM	#9
The Only Real Estel Raffish Rapscallion Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Far from the 'Downs, it seems :-( Posts: 2,835	By the way, Eomer, I think you're last point about the cobbler isn't entirely correct. I would expect the cobbler to defend an innocent or attack a wolf in such a way that if the cobbler is lynched & discovered the village might lynch the innocent for a wolf or defend the wolf for an innocent. Hope that makes sense, it did before I tried to express it. edit: cross-posting AGAIN, I suppose it's some sort of requirement that I have to cross-post with somebody... edit2: since wilwa will probably not be able to vote (by her own admission) & double-lynchings are discouraged anyway I imagine the day will probably be cut short soon? Last edited by The Only Real Estel; 08-05-2005 at 09:55 AM.