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Turgon Philip Noldor · 07-19-2005, 09:41 PM

I'm not sure what you are asking here. Obviously the topic is how Frodo changed from when he was in the Shire (the beginning of Fellowship) to when he went back to the Shire (the end of Return). Well since you didn't ask any specific questions, I'll just give you some feed-back. I believe most of this change was due to the toil and hardship that Frodo went through on his journy. He went through so much pain that once he got back to the Shire, he still felt that pain. That is why he left. Or most of the resson.

Folwren · 07-20-2005, 07:58 AM

*sigh* I'm afraid there isn't much a question, to be sure, but I've found this a very interesting topic to consider. I'm just bringing to the surface what I've thought about Frodo and his whole history, character, and the the dramatic change that the quest brought to him, and I'm hoping other people will do the same...but if everyone thinks that it's a pointless thread, I can probably remove it, or get it removed.

mark12_30 · 07-20-2005, 08:18 AM

Before you remove it (I don't see that it's a bad thread) why don't we at least use it as a place to link to previous discussions about the changes in Frodo? There is certainly plenty to consider. I'll do a bit of searching and find a thread or two.

mark12_30 · 07-20-2005, 08:31 AM

How Much Frodo grew...

frodo was both the weakest and strongest person in the Trilogy?

Frodo or the Ring

Frodo at Sammath Naur

What caused Frodo to finally give in to the power of the Ring and claim it?

Folwren, you can either add to this thread regarding the other threads, or, add to the other threads. Since you started this thread that makes it up to you. Enjoy.

Galadriel55 · 07-06-2011, 07:57 AM

I think that Frodo was never exactly an ordinary happy-go-lucky hobbit. Maybe he was in his childhood, but we don't know too much about him in that stage of his life as a character.

Even before he got the Ring, he was more thoughful and perhaps more "deep"* than other hobbits. He learned Elvish from Bilbo. However, the change in him is still enourmous: before the story of the Ring he still felt himself a part of the Shire, and the Shire - a part of him.

I'd say that Frodo changed more than Bilbo did. Although he left partially because Bilbo left as well (so Bilbo had the bigger bulk here), the end result was different. Bilbo as learned in Elvish lore, but he was still a fully-fledged hobbit inside. Frodo was less learned, but he was less of a hobbit inside by the end of the Trilogy. In a way Bilbo is the Elvish hobbit, and Frodo is the hobbitish Elf.

*By that I don't mean to say that other hobbit characters are shallow; he was just less down-to-earth/simple.

07-19-2005, 09:41 PM	#1
Turgon Philip Noldor Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Indonesia Posts: 32	I'm not sure what you are asking here. Obviously the topic is how Frodo changed from when he was in the Shire (the beginning of Fellowship) to when he went back to the Shire (the end of Return). Well since you didn't ask any specific questions, I'll just give you some feed-back. I believe most of this change was due to the toil and hardship that Frodo went through on his journy. He went through so much pain that once he got back to the Shire, he still felt that pain. That is why he left. Or most of the resson. __________________ "Covered by a love divine, Child of the risen Lord, To hear You say 'This ones mine', My heart is spoken for...." -MercyMe, Spoken For-

07-20-2005, 07:58 AM	#2
Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	sigh I'm afraid there isn't much a question, to be sure, but I've found this a very interesting topic to consider. I'm just bringing to the surface what I've thought about Frodo and his whole history, character, and the the dramatic change that the quest brought to him, and I'm hoping other people will do the same...but if everyone thinks that it's a pointless thread, I can probably remove it, or get it removed. __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

07-20-2005, 08:18 AM	#3
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Before you remove it (I don't see that it's a bad thread) why don't we at least use it as a place to link to previous discussions about the changes in Frodo? There is certainly plenty to consider. I'll do a bit of searching and find a thread or two. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

07-20-2005, 08:31 AM	#4
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Here are a few good links. How Much Frodo grew... frodo was both the weakest and strongest person in the Trilogy? Frodo or the Ring Frodo at Sammath Naur What caused Frodo to finally give in to the power of the Ring and claim it? Folwren, you can either add to this thread regarding the other threads, or, add to the other threads. Since you started this thread that makes it up to you. Enjoy. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve. Last edited by mark12_30; 07-22-2005 at 08:47 AM.

07-06-2011, 07:57 AM	#5
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,520	I think that Frodo was never exactly an ordinary happy-go-lucky hobbit. Maybe he was in his childhood, but we don't know too much about him in that stage of his life as a character. Even before he got the Ring, he was more thoughful and perhaps more "deep"* than other hobbits. He learned Elvish from Bilbo. However, the change in him is still enourmous: before the story of the Ring he still felt himself a part of the Shire, and the Shire - a part of him. I'd say that Frodo changed more than Bilbo did. Although he left partially because Bilbo left as well (so Bilbo had the bigger bulk here), the end result was different. Bilbo as learned in Elvish lore, but he was still a fully-fledged hobbit inside. Frodo was less learned, but he was less of a hobbit inside by the end of the Trilogy. In a way Bilbo is the Elvish hobbit, and Frodo is the hobbitish Elf. By that I don't mean to say that other hobbit characters are shallow; he was just less down-to-earth/simple. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!...* ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera