Werewolf VI (the saga continues in a rather continuous way)

[Saurreg]

Eomer
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: First to post. Offers nothing substantial. Claims to know two innocents. Could be a talented character (but how can he account for two - sheriff?) or a sly lycan throwing in his gambit.

Firefoot
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Logical rejoinder and counter-suggestion to TGWBS's aborted plan. Thinks Eomer might be a sheriff. Questions Mormegil's suspicions. Not much to work with.

Gil-Galad
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Single short non-substantial post. Does not answer to Mormegil's punt. Interesting...

Holbytlass
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Read to much into the mod's 1st post. Offers nothing substantial,sShe agrees immediate to TGWBS' plan without batting an eyelid, when everybody has yet to endorse. Worth taking a closer look.

Kath
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Angst induced rambling (apparant). Nothing to work with. A lycan testing the waters?

littlemanpoet
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Wants volunteer lynching of three innocents. Wants Seer to remain highly inconspicous (read - ineffective). Very bizzare. To be observed closely. Highest suspect yet.

Lhuna
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: No posts. Nothing to work on.

Nilpaurion Felagund
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: No posts. Nothing to woek on. Strangely enough, his absence is vouched by Mormegil. In cahoots? Sherriffs or lycans?

Orominuialwen
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Insubstantial post. Nothing to work with.

the guy who be short
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Most vocal. Suggested an aborted scheme. Suspects nobody yet but homs in on Hoby and Lhun for unknown reason. Rivalry forming between him and morm.

Mormegil
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Suggested a less than perfect scheme that might end in random senseless lynch (what for?). Singles out TGWBS and Oro (why?) out of no where and then thinks TGWBs si innocent. Highly erratic post behaviour. The delivery of that post contradicts its meaning. A lycan?


Werewolf behaviour to note:

1. Unless they have access problems, they will monitor the development of events very closely and try to swerve opinion by direct intervention.

2. They will not usually bandwagon outright to avoid suspicion. However they might be tempted to try so as a gambit (last resort), as a bluff call.

3. Good lycan players throw red herrings and create confusion. This is done by active post direction with sensational contents.

Eomer I so happen to watch the Simpsons and I know what Lionel Hutz is. If that is your plot to bait me into a flame and get me into trouble with forum authorities simply because of our run-in in the last game, you will not succeed. That meaningless sentence only serves to show how petty and shallow you are in person.

[littlemanpoet]

Originally Posted by Saurreg

Eomer
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: First to post. Offers nothing substantial. Claims to know two innocents. Could be a talented character (but how can he account for two - sheriff?) or a sly lycan throwing in his gambit.

littlemanpoet
Voted for:
Posting Behaviour: Wants volunteer lynching of three innocents. Wants Seer to remain highly inconspicous (read - ineffective). Very bizzare. To be observed closely. Highest suspect yet.

I quoted these two (see? written in blood right here) ---produces forearm--- because I think Saur's onto something in the first one, an' I'll defend myself regarding the second. Second first: I'm not even going to say whether I'm innocent or a werewolf. Figure it out for yourselves. That's your problem. I know what I am and I'll do what I can, but the lot o' you don't trust me no how so it don't much matter. The Seer shuttin' up about bein' the Seer potentially saves the Seer's life so that said Seer can be useful toward the end game when Seer is most effective. Yes I know it involves the risk of losing the Seer if the wolves get lucky, but I still think it's worth that risk because if the Seer shuts up about being seer early, the only way the wolves will get Seer is if they're lucky. Get it? Fart for brains?

Saur, yer attempt at ana - ana - um - bein' smart says ta me that yer either innocent or a wolf playin' poker face. We'll see. I'm leanin' toward innocent, but that c'ld change.

About Eomer. Actin' way too silly. He better out with his theories now before votes or I'm votin' fer him. An' if he votes fer me, fine. I'd expect it from a fop.

About Gilly: I think you guys are rushin' t' the kill on shoddy grounds. So he says next to nothin' worthwhile in one post. It don't mean nuthin one way or the other. Yer just usin' it as an excuse not to think harder. Too bad fer you. Wasted vote.

Guy, I get it finally on yer #1 point above. If we all vote for the same ungifted innocent, THEN we can't tell werewolf voting patterns whereas if everybody votes to their thinking, werewolf thinking can maybe be found out. Okay. That was the weaker part of my plan. The big part is seer, stay shut up until you have sumthin worth talkin' about like a wolf or two.

Eomer, you got a little while to defend yerself.

[littlemanpoet]

++Eomer

I don' trust his screwy posting. Making suggestions about this and that, tryin' to redirect people's thoughts in a suspicious way. I expect more. Playin' games with people's minds.

[the guy who be short]

May I ask everybody who can to stop and WAIT before they vote, please? We see a situation where G-G could be bandwagonned simply for being who he is.

If he doesn't come up with something to say, let's kill him. If he does, deflect the votes.

For myself, I will probably be voting Firefoot. She's quiet, she's present but not noticable, she wants to kill innocent villagers. As I've said, this plan has immediate flaws. No voting records to look at. No way to work out wolves. Higher chance of Gifted Villies dying in the Night. With as many Gifteds as we have, some will die anyway.
Perhaps the same could be said of LMP, but at least he is present and admitting the weak points. I can only see him as innocent.

I have a "semi-plan" to share. If the Seer looks like s/he is about to be lynched, tell us who you are! We lynch somebody else, wolves kill Seer at Night. It works better than way.

If a Shirriff is about to by lynched - tell us who the other one is! The werewolves are forced to lynch them.

[Saurreg]

Eomer is a wild card. He could be a very bold wolf masquerading as special villager or he could really be one. If he is a special villager then he would be either our seer or one of the sheriffs.

However I really question his boldness in proclaiming his knowledge on who the two innocents are. Would a special character risk everything so soon by proclaiming privilege information, especially when there are so many suspects about? I should think that any special character would try to drop subtle hints whilst laying as inconspicous as possible until the time comes to reveal himself and to quote a famous seer loosely, "carry out the crusade with impunity"

[Saurreg]

TGWBS has a valid point about Gil-galad. But quite frankly I'm reading more into the votes levied against him.

mormegil stated that his vote on the first day is more or less random but based on who was the most suspicious in my opinion. That is quite fair and in the spirit of gamesmanship, morally correct. I see nothing wrong.

But...

Lhun who has been pretty quiet herself immediately joins Morm and votes for Gil for whatever reason, we don't know.

Ten minutes apart. Interesting no?

[the guy who be short]

Originally Posted by Saurreg

However I really question his boldness in proclaiming his knowledge on who the two innocents are. Would a special character risk everything so soon by proclaiming privilege information, especially when there are so many suspects about?

I'm quite certain he is neither a Seer nor a Shirriff - it would be stupid for the Seer to come out so early, and there is no seond Shirriff supporting Eomer. I find it much more likely that he'll be trying to work things out logically.

[Saurreg]

Originally Posted by the guy who be short

I'm quite certain he is neither a Seer nor a Shirriff - it would be stupid for the Seer to come out so early, and there is no seond Shirriff supporting Eomer. I find it much more likely that he'll be trying to work things out logically.

And pray tell, what logic are you referring to?

[Kath]

Lhun who has been pretty quiet herself immediately joins Morm and votes for Gil for whatever reason, we don't know.

I was a little concerned about that also but maybe it was due to the fact that she will not be back later and had little time to make a decision. It could be seen as bandwaggoning of course (I love that word!) but it could also just be that she agrees with Morm's ideas and saw no need to put them again.

The problem with that is that I don't understand mormegil's reasons on voting for Gil. He said it was due to the lack of substantial posting, but Gil never posts a huge amount so it is difficult to use this as a reason, especially seeing as how Oro has made even fewer posts with just as little in them. I realise he now can't answer for himself but I'm just wondering if this strikes anyone else as odd.

And Saurreg, I apologise for my meandering, rambling post, but I needed to get my thoughts written out so that when I try to work out what on earth I meant I have something to go back and refer to.