A Latent Desire? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Eruanna · 07-07-2005, 01:34 PM

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Or perhaps one ought to say Light, in the context that I am thinking of. Basically, I'm seeing a connection between the Holy Light of the Lamps, Trees, Stars, and Sun and Moon and the inspiring Fire of Narya

Good point Formendacil. There are many instances in 'The Hobbit' when Gandalf uses or makes light; after killing the Great Goblin and during the Battle of the Five Armies spring to mind. Also, in Moria and the rescue of Faramir from the Nazgul in LotR.

'...he raised his hand, and from it a shaft of white light stabbed upwards...'

Narya? Or Gandalf's staff? Or does the staff merely 'amplify' the ring?

Gorthaur the Cruel · 07-07-2005, 07:29 PM

Very good theories everyone. I myself have always been confused by this. How has Nenya diminished her love for middle-earth when she desired so much to save her realm? Her laments over the loss of her own power to preserve her land contradicts with the supposed joy-diminishing effect of Nenya. If her joy was truly diminished by her ring of power then why does she say the following:

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Yet I could wish, were it of any avail, that the One Ring had never been wrought, or had remained forever lost. - The Fellowship of the Ring

Her words above gives me the impression that although Sauron is potent even without the One, she can still defend and maintain Lothlorien for so long as He doesn't obtain it. She's powerful indeed (pupil of Melian who has managed to gaze deeper into the future, perhaps exceeding her tutor).

Perhaps this is another one of Tolkien's inconsistencies (i.e. Celeborn & Amroth's origins)?

Kuruharan · 07-07-2005, 07:48 PM

Perhaps, like many people, Galadriel struggled with conflicting desires and feelings.

Gorthaur the Cruel · 07-19-2005, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuruharan

Perhaps, like many people, Galadriel struggled with conflicting desires and feelings.

True, but she seemed to long for Aman very much & for her to be so greatly tempted by the ring & her sorrow for the fading of Lothlorien is utterly contradictory for her urge to go home.

Kuruharan · 07-20-2005, 07:27 AM

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True, but she seemed to long for Aman very much & for her to be so greatly tempted by the ring & her sorrow for the fading of Lothlorien is utterly contradictory for her urge to go home.

Well...yes. That's the point.

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