The Midsummer Maulings (WW5)

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Nilp just hasn't been around, so...guilty silence or innocent silence? (Durelin)

Nilp--Only one minor post of absolutely no significance . . . At a minimum it's annoying to those of us trying our hardest to catch a wolf when there's behavior like this. (morm)

I see I'm suspicious just because I am physically unable to sustain myself in this place. Well, if you knew the reasons for that trickle of substance you saw in my first post, ummm . . . you'll know.

I have little time. You have to realise I'm living in a Third-World Asian country situated on the other side of the world that's teethering on the edge of civil war. Plus my host body is a student. Them Filipinos have to study their Latin and German, too.

I have to post so I don't get killed by some absence rule. But I had no idea what to post. I find little to say on DAY 1 (unless something utterly controversial is put forth, like what happened on my host's game). So, I said the obvious. I'm Adam. I'm playing, not Nilp.

Now, you thirst for substance from the grouchy distant alter-ego? You'll get it, as soon as I finish my analysis. It's out of habit for me to point fingers without evidence. Be back in about four hours.

[Durelin]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Durelin--Fairly long post just one though on day one. Seemingly attempting to rectify that on day two. Was it a wolvish strategy that she realized wasn't working or an innocent strategy? Either way it's good to have her talking more. Her sudden change to Kath is a bit disconcerting to me though. She said that Firefoot's post convinced her but previously didn't mention Kath. I enjoyed Firefoot's post and found it helpful but I don't think it was sufficiently convincing to make somebody do a 180 degree turn like it did for Durelin. (maybe not a full 180 but a drastic turn nonetheless.) A probable wolf

So maybe I'm blood-thirsty, fanged, hairy, I have fleas (you might be right about that one), and I've been enjoying killing people and frightening you all the past couple nights. Maybe I like seeing you people worked up. Maybe I moonlight as a completely different person (literally) and do horrendous things like egg people's houses and tp their beautiful green lawns, while sometimes leaving bloodied corpses among the grass.

Maybe, or maybe not.

I'll leave you to decide. Now, it's off the the beach with me. I'm very sad to miss the rest of the day's procedings, and my probable sentencing to death. Yes, I know, I'm horribly pessimistic.

O untimely death, death!

-Durelin

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Durelin

So maybe I'm blood-thirsty, fanged, hairy, I have fleas (you might be right about that one), and I've been enjoying killing people and frightening you all the past couple nights. Maybe I like seeing you people worked up. Maybe I moonlight as a completely different person (literally) and do horrendous things like egg people's houses and tp their beautiful green lawns, while sometimes leaving bloodied corpses among the grass.

Maybe, or maybe not.

I'll leave you to decide. Now, it's off the the beach with me. I'm very sad to miss the rest of the day's procedings, and my probable sentencing to death. Yes, I know, I'm horribly pessimistic.

O untimely death, death!

-Durelin

I seem to have struck a nerve on this one. I'm not sure what to make of this approach to a defense. I was really hoping for an explination as to why she made such a drastic change. What I get is a "tragic" bemoaning of her woeful fate. It seems to me that in the absence of a good defense Durelin choose to take the "poor me" approach, appealing to our sympathy. I find it hard to give any when two innocents have been slaughtered by wolves and one has been killed by us. With four wolves on the prowl we need to bag one today to even out the odds. With this response from Durelin I'm becoming greatly more suspicious of her.

As for Nilp/Adam. I understand your problems and all. What I would ask is when you do have that limited time...please post something of substance. You could very well be innocent but without something to base that on I fear that we are assuming guilty.

If my timeline is correct we still have about 7 hours to go before our deadline. I will wait a little while to see if my mind changes but right now I think I am going to be voting Durelin.

[the guy who be short]

There are two real comments I wish to respond too.

Originally Posted by Oro

tgwbs, your suspicions of me seem to have no basis other than that Durelin disagreed with Firefoot's gut instinct about me

The quietness. The lack of substance in posts. I see an under-the-radar strategy here. However, I'm a little less sure of you than I was before, and a little more sure of Kitanna.

Originally Posted by morm

It might be nothing at all but is seems to me that he was waiting for somebody else to do that so he wouldn't have to be first. Granted you spoke against him but your choice of words and timing seem suspicious to me. My feelings and logic dictate that we watch him more carefully he's smooth and expert in these matters. He's not to be taken lightly. Probably guilty

Of course I was waiting. I needed to see if others agreed or not, I needed to gague whether the time was right, whether my arguments were persuasive enough. In short, I needed to be sure the little evidence we had was persuasive enough, and it was (though we ended up killing an innocent). I don't like to waste my vote.

I am hardly expert in these matters, having been in but one werewolf-inhabited village before, and quickly slain (though I have risen again).

I am not to be taken lightly.

I am innocent.


Not, Kitanna has grabbed my eye - she's garnering a lot of suspicion. I want to lynch:

Oro OR durelin OR Kitanna.

I would like to see what people think about these three, and which one the majority find most likely to be guilty, before voting.

Edit: Ooh, I forgot old Nilpy. Add him to the list, will ya?

Edit II: Of the four, I am most inclined to lynch durelin now, followed by Kitanna, Oro, Nilp. Thoughts?

Edit III: I'm inclined not to kill G-G for lck of substance. I believe one of our original reasons for lynching him was his lack of substance and generally Gil-Galadness, and fear doing so again would simply repeat the mistake.

[Firefoot]

Of the four, I am most inclined to lynch durelin now, followed by Kitanna, Oro, Nilp. Thoughts?

I think I'm feeling more inclined to lynch Kitanna first and go from there. However, Durelin's newest post has me intrigued - Morm is right that it has a very different, drastic tone to it that her other posts have not. I'm not sure what to think of that.

And at this point I am leaning away from Nilp's guilt. I am thinking that our wolves (at least three of them) will come from the list of Durelin, Kitanna, Oro, Gil, Kath, and Holbytlass.

I'm inclined not to kill G-G for lck of substance. I believe one of our original reasons for lynching him was his lack of substance and generally Gil-Galadness, and fear doing so again would simply repeat the mistake.

I don't really know if I agree or not. There are other people higher on my list than Gil right now, and I doubt he will go today. However, I wish he would give us something to go on. At least on Day 1 we knew where he was at. It is this change that has me worried.

[Holbytlass]

I only have an hour or so to vote. I'm glad we're working our way back. I'd be glad to vote for Kittana or Duerlin, but I'd like to know which one we're going for.

[the guy who be short]

Well, if people have pressing demands, they should vote now. Holbytlass, I'd prefer to vote durelin, and Firefoot (I think) would prefer Kitanna. I'm not hugely bothered, though. Kitanna probably has more suspicion behind her, so

++Kitanna.

[Mithalwen]

Five hours to go.

Stats:

Werewolves 4
Villagers : 7 (including, seer, guardian and hunter).

Vote wisely!!!!! (Or this could be a very short game).

[Gil-Galad]

...The new Gil-Galad is playing for Sophia, so basically i'm almost a new character with no connection to the old one, so your reasons are incorect because its a different person, besides i don't want to voice too much as i did before, cause i got killed, so why would i do it again and get killed again? pretty stupid if yo uask me and i'm not stupid...

I'll have to agree with TGWBS on this one, Kitanna is gaining much suspicion and is beginning to lose my beleif that she is innocent, i beleive Durelin is innocent...so no hard feelings Kitanna

++Kitanna

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Holbytlass

I'd be glad to vote for Kittana or Duerlin, but I'd like to know which one we're going for.

Do my eyes deceive me entirely? Are we actually plotting out a bandwagon approach? Do you people realize that with bandwagoning as the accepted option, that nobody's vote can seriously be taken as hard evidence? If we all vote the same, wolves can hide. Or was that your plan, Holby?

Originally Posted by Mormegil

However, your intricate knowledge of people character is a bit disconcerting to me. You seem to know many of us too well for my liking. As if you know who's guilty and who's innocent.

Originally Posted by Holby

That I would "know many of us too well" for your liking points to me hitting a nerve.

I did not see that at all. Let me explain: in your prior post, you had revealed the characterizations of several players. I certainly did not pick up on all of them, and I was impressed. Perhaps t'was the same with Morm, eh? Saying "knowledge of people character" was something that I assumed meant characterization, not role. As for the direct challenge, it was day one, and none of us actually knew what we were talking about (save the wolves, as that's a given). Your response, however, seemed to me somewhat more offensive (as in opposite of defense) than was directly called for.

Holby voted for Gil-galad1 on what was publicly explained as NOT being a knee-jerk reaction, but if you look at her post, she only voted for him after

the evidence (that we do have) against Gil-Galad that TGWBS and Feanor has pointed out gives credit to the gut feelings I've been having

This could easily be a knee-jerk reaction coupled with a bandwagoning. Or, of course, there is the option that I'm dead wrong and she's an innocent and I'm seeing "evidence" where it doesn't exist. It could happen.

One other thing that got me was her response to Oddwen. Oddy said that "nothing is definate" about Holbytlass. This was just a boring comment saying that she wasn't particularly suspicious. Holby jumped at it as a chance to declare her innocence once again: "I'm definately not lupine", or something along those lines. It just struck me as odd... It's not like Oddy was accusing her. And then Oddwen died. In a very disturbing way. I'll never look at high powered explosives the same way again. *shudder*

Any how... All of my "evidence" is shoddy. I know that. I'm just trying to qualify the creepy feeling I got when I saw that Holby is so willing to go along with the crowd. On the plus side, now you've all seen my evidence and can point out where I went wrong with it. Or you can get even more suspicous because of it.

Think of it though... Holby is one of the fairly quiet ones that she suspects herself! Also, she doesn't ever make the first move. She waits to see who people suspect, and latches onto the cause. She was one of the "early" voters for Gil, helping cement his first death, and after she got all defensive against Oddwen for an innocent comment, Oddy died. Take from it what you will, but today's vote for me must go to ++Holby.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

As for Nilp/Adam. I understand your problems and all. What I would ask is when you do have that limited time...please post something of substance. You could very well be innocent but without something to base that on I fear that we are assuming guilty. (morm)

You're lucky you're not playing with my host, Nilp, for he does worse than post without substance. But I guess each to one's own.

But I think I see something here. You want more loudmouths to hide your hide. Perhaps your brush with suspicion yesterday unnerved you, so you need to confuse the innocent populace, to throw them off track. You need more of us here adding our own little suspicions to the pot. I'm looking closely at you, but not enough to merit my vote yet.

Now, the new Gil-galad's lack of substance is different from yesterday's. As Firefoot said, he gives nothing now--no suspicions, no accusions, no vengeance for those responsible for his death yesterday, no nothing. If I did not know better, I'll say Sophia was a wolf, who, sadly, was unable to play. So Mithalwen gave her seat to Gil, which will make him a werewolf. He's now posting in such a way in an effort to hide his new role.

The way the guy bunched together Sophia, me, and Oddwen gives credence to what I just said. I know I am innocent, but you'll be the judge of that. Oddwen was proven innocent. Now, if one (or two!) of the people in those list were to die and be proven innocent, that would leave the last one with a good alibi. I'm looking at the guy closely now, too.

I remain little convinced by what I posted myself, so I'll just for the one who's existence is most unnatural:

++Gil-galad

Sorry, chap. But dead bats shouldn't come back to life the next day (unless a certain cat gave you one of her nine lives, but I doubt that.)