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Old 06-23-2005, 05:08 PM   #1
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But I do understand why Theoden wants her to stay behind at Edoras. He knows he can trust her and he knows that she will make the right desicions.
Well, actually, evidence suggests that Theoden only thinks he can trust her and that she will do the right thing. What she did was not what he was expecting, to say the least.
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Old 06-24-2005, 12:16 AM   #2
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Well, actually, evidence suggests that Theoden only thinks he can trust her and that she will do the right thing. What she did was not what he was expecting, to say the least.
Interesting...

I think Theoden really trusted her from the beginning. After all, he agreed to Hama's(?) suggestion of putting her into position without a shadow of a doubt. And I do think that Eowyn had every intention of remaining in Edoras, though it is certain that she has entertained the thoughts of leaving her responsibility behind every once in a while. But Aragorn's 'visit' she did not expect, and that was the final nudge that made her set aside her uncle's charge. Correction: will make her.
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Old 06-24-2005, 08:41 AM   #3
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It certainly put the temptation in mind.

I think that her belief that Aragorn was going to his death in the Paths of the Dead probably spurred her as well.

My point was more that Theoden was ultimately mistaken in his belief in the reliability of Eowyn's behavior. She may have intended to remain behind, but then she was exposed to pressure.

Pressure made her behave in a way that was perhaps a little...*hoom-hoom*...hasty.
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Old 06-24-2005, 09:17 AM   #4
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'Too often have I heard of duty,' she cried. 'But am I not of the Houseof Eorl, a shieldmaiden and not a dry-nurse? I have waited on faltering feet long enough. Since they falter no longer, it seems, may I not now spend my life as I will?'
'Few may do that with honour,' he answered.
Theoden seems to have strongly impressed duty onto Eowyn. With the high value placed on duty and honor, he would have had no reason to think that Eowyn would abandon her charge, even if te thought had crossed her mind. I agree that her belief that Aragorn was going to his death helped spur her on to the decision; perhaps it was also related to the realization that Aragron did not return her love.

At any rate, it was fortunate that she did finally choose to leave Edoras.
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Old 06-24-2005, 09:54 AM   #5
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Theoden seems to have strongly impressed duty onto Eowyn.
This is true. But to some extent I think he may have been putting feelings and impulses onto Eowyn in his own mind that were inaccurate (this is a common problem).

He does not seem to entirely understand the impact all those years of taking care of him and listening to Wormtongue has had on her.
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This is getting to be a discussion for another thread, but...

If Eowyn is selfish in abandoning her responsibility, and wishing to go off to war and glory, is Theoden not equally guilty? After all, as both an old man and the king of Rohan, it would be more natural for him to remain at home, instead of Erkenbrand, and send the younger marshals out to command the army. Instead, he wants one last gasp at glory.

Now, I admit that Theoden had some more altruistic reasons than that- such as the morale it gives his men, but to Eowyn it might appear as such.

Perhaps Eowyn is following her uncle's example: first she does her duty, as does he, then she goes chasing after glory, as does he.
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