Tol-in-Gaurhoth (Isle of Werewolves) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-15-2005, 12:37 AM

Can *wheeze* I *hack, cough* join?

Sorry. *deep breath* Had to run to get here.

And what role will you play.

Oh, as usual, when I play "Killers." The suspect.

Kuruharan · 06-15-2005, 06:40 AM

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I thought that the mason's wouldn't be named at death similar to the cursed villager.

The masons should be named at death. Otherwise, how do they establish their credibility with the villagers?

Mithalwen · 06-15-2005, 07:00 AM

Surely the simplest solution is to let the seer, hunter and guardian know each other's identities and so work together to protect the villagers as the wolves work together to destroy them. That makes good and evil even at the start. And stops all this "What happens if the hunter takes down the guarded, cursed villager while the seer is dreaming about them type of hypothesis....

Celuien · 06-15-2005, 07:25 AM

I'm not entirely sold on the Scribe role for the same reasons as The Saucepan Man.

On the participation rule, I think that if someone suddenly disappears without notice, they should be a candidate for lynching, but I'm not comfortable with requiring a vote or specific type of post for the reason that it restricts strategy.

I like Mithalwen's idea of letting the seer, hunter and guardian work together.

Evisse the Blue · 06-15-2005, 06:55 AM

I want to play too, (again). I'd like to be the baker - fortune cookie maker.

Re: Seer first night idea: yep, I think the Seer should dream the first night

Re: Wolves Pm-ing each other only at night: yep, also agree with this.

Re: Masons/Elf-friends/Twins: mmhm, yeah, okay. Although...I can imagine how these people might draw suspicion upon themselves from the villagers for all the wrong reasons, thus complicating the matters further.

Re: killing people off for non-participation: I support this. In case this is too harsh, let it be at least killing off people who don't vote. Because it is very difficult to make an impression -guilty or nay- of someone who doesn't say anything.

littlemanpoet · 06-15-2005, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Evisse the Blue

I want to play too, (again). I'd like to be the baker - fortune cookie maker

Cool! Now all we need is a candlestick maker.

I do like Mithalwen's idea, so I second that one.

Fordim Hedgethistle · 06-15-2005, 09:08 AM

Mithalwen is in this game???? Ooooooh...I might have to enlist again after all....

*Fordim ponders*

**The Saucepan Man** · 06-15-2005, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Surely the simplest solution is to let the seer, hunter and guardian know each other's identities and so work together to protect the villagers as the wolves work together to destroy them.

But wouldn't this tip the balance the other way? Three Villagers who know each other to be innocent, can discuss their thoughts and have other special abilities which they can co-ordinate seems to be giving the Villagers too much power. If the Seer was to identify a Werewolf early on, the Hunter would be guaranteed a Werewolf kill when he or she dies, which rather takes half the fun out of it.

I prefer the idea of two separate players being the Masons/Elf-friends/Twins, since this will provide some benefit to the Villlagers, but not enough to tip the balance against the Werewolves. It will also give a greater number of players an additional role, which I see as a plus.

mormegil · 06-15-2005, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

But wouldn't this tip the balance the other way? Three Villagers who know each other to be innocent, can discuss their thoughts and have other special abilities which they can co-ordinate seems to be giving the Villagers too much power. If the Seer was to identify a Werewolf early on, the Hunter would be guaranteed a Werewolf kill when he or she dies, which rather takes half the fun out of it.

I prefer the idea of two separate players being the Masons/Elf-friends/Twins, since this will provide some benefit to the Villlagers, but not enough to tip the balance against the Werewolves. It will also give a greater number of players an additional role, which I see as a plus.

I agree plus with the guardian knowing who the seer is puts the seer at substantially less risk. There needs to be that risk to make it interesting.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 06-15-2005, 09:50 AM

the guy who be short
Azaelia of Willowbottom
littlemanpoet
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Anguirel
Saurreg
mormegil
Lalaith
Celuien
the phantom
Esgallhugwen
Oddwen
Nilpaurion Felagund
Evisse the Blue
Feanor of the Peredhil

Mithalwen (I think)
Fordim (?)
Kuru (really wants to play but perhaps cannot?)

I think it's 15 definites so far. Verily, a grand feast could be made!

As for roles, I shall be a sea-faring rapscallion.

Mithalwen · 06-15-2005, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man

But wouldn't this tip the balance the other way? Three Villagers who know each other to be innocent, can discuss their thoughts and have other special abilities which they can co-ordinate seems to be giving the Villagers too much power. If the Seer was to identify a Werewolf early on, the Hunter would be guaranteed a Werewolf kill when he or she dies, which rather takes half the fun out of it.

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Well the Werewolves are guaranteed kills almost always so I don't have a problem with that. Also it would depend on the wolves attacking the hunter - I mean it is not as if the Hunter can make a preemptive strike. Also if there are separate masons the "ordinary" villagers will have to guess whether those seeming to work together are wolves or masons.. at least the hunter/guardian /seer trio can protect themselves a little. And they will have to be careful to be subtle.

Anyway I guess like "Mornington Crescent", various variations will develop and I may well enforce these rules if I ever get my chance at being dictator ... I mean moderator ....

And if the sheep don't like it.....

Anyway, DVWP, my attention out of work shall be focused mainly elsewhere for 2 weeks from Monday... (SW19)

mormegil · 06-15-2005, 11:17 AM

Nice list Eomer although we shouldn't consider TGWBS to be a player per se, being that he is the first to die and will be the moderator.

Mithalwen · 06-15-2005, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Fordim Hedgethistle

Mithalwen is in this game???? Ooooooh...I might have to enlist again after all....

*Fordim ponders*

No she isn't

06-15-2005, 12:37 AM	#1
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	*gasp, gasp, deep breath* Can wheeze I hack, cough join? Sorry. deep breath Had to run to get here. And what role will you play. Oh, as usual, when I play "Killers." The suspect. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

06-15-2005, 07:00 AM	#3
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Surely the simplest solution is to let the seer, hunter and guardian know each other's identities and so work together to protect the villagers as the wolves work together to destroy them. That makes good and evil even at the start. And stops all this "What happens if the hunter takes down the guarded, cursed villager while the seer is dreaming about them type of hypothesis.... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-15-2005, 07:25 AM	#4
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	I'm not entirely sold on the Scribe role for the same reasons as The Saucepan Man. On the participation rule, I think that if someone suddenly disappears without notice, they should be a candidate for lynching, but I'm not comfortable with requiring a vote or specific type of post for the reason that it restricts strategy. I like Mithalwen's idea of letting the seer, hunter and guardian work together. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

06-15-2005, 06:55 AM	#5
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Enlisting.... I want to play too, (again). I'd like to be the baker - fortune cookie maker. Re: Seer first night idea: yep, I think the Seer should dream the first night Re: Wolves Pm-ing each other only at night: yep, also agree with this. Re: Masons/Elf-friends/Twins: mmhm, yeah, okay. Although...I can imagine how these people might draw suspicion upon themselves from the villagers for all the wrong reasons, thus complicating the matters further. Re: killing people off for non-participation: I support this. In case this is too harsh, let it be at least killing off people who don't vote. Because it is very difficult to make an impression -guilty or nay- of someone who doesn't say anything. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

06-15-2005, 09:08 AM	#7
Fordim Hedgethistle Gibbering Gibbet Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Beyond cloud nine Posts: 1,844	Mithalwen is in this game???? Ooooooh...I might have to enlist again after all.... Fordim ponders __________________ Scribbling scrabbling.

06-15-2005, 09:50 AM	#10
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Lots of players! the guy who be short Azaelia of Willowbottom littlemanpoet Eomer of the Rohirrim Anguirel Saurreg mormegil Lalaith Celuien the phantom Esgallhugwen Oddwen Nilpaurion Felagund Evisse the Blue Feanor of the Peredhil Mithalwen (I think) Fordim (?) Kuru (really wants to play but perhaps cannot?) I think it's 15 definites so far. Verily, a grand feast could be made! As for roles, I shall be a sea-faring rapscallion. __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

06-15-2005, 11:17 AM	#12
mormegil Maundering Mage Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 4,651	Nice list Eomer although we shouldn't consider TGWBS to be a player per se, being that he is the first to die and will be the moderator. __________________ “I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”