Hurin the Wraith - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Tuor of Gondolin · 06-01-2005, 10:36 AM

"Remember the choices given to Elros and Elrond. The very right to grant immortal life was made at the sole discretion of the Valars alone without consultation to Illuvatar. Therefore I think it was very possible for them to be ably to control the longevity and indeed the very nature of individuals."
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Very interesting speculation, but I don't recall a definitive statement that the
Valar acted independently of Eru in the matter of the half-elven. Is there some reference? My impression/assumption has always been that it was Eru's
decision, wth the Valar acting as intermediaries, but that's only an inference on my part.

06-01-2005, 10:36 AM	#8
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	"Remember the choices given to Elros and Elrond. The very right to grant immortal life was made at the sole discretion of the Valars alone without consultation to Illuvatar. Therefore I think it was very possible for them to be ably to control the longevity and indeed the very nature of individuals." ----------------------- Very interesting speculation, but I don't recall a definitive statement that the Valar acted independently of Eru in the matter of the half-elven. Is there some reference? My impression/assumption has always been that it was Eru's decision, wth the Valar acting as intermediaries, but that's only an inference on my part. __________________ Aure Entuluva!