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Mankáno · 05-09-2002, 09:59 PM

Goldur, in a word no.

Morgoth's spirit wasn't like the others. He as Sauron was an Ainur, an spirit originated outside Arda, before Arda was created.

Sauron was way less powerful than Morgoth, he wasn't not even near as powerful, Sauron was a servant of Morgoth, Morgoth was of a higuer level, in fact, Morgoth was the most powerful of all the Ainur, including Manwe.

Of course Sauron's evil spirit was corrupted by Melkor or Morgoth, all evil was originated in Morgoth.

The ring had part of Sauron's (not Morgoth) power and was forged using the techniques he learned from the Noldor, which enhanced its power but with or without ring, Sauron was only a shadow of what Morgoth was.

Don't forget that Sauron faced enemies much weaker than Morgoth.

Sauron was defeated by the army of last alliance, that has some high elves in it but was mostly composed by men and dwarves. And the elves that fought couldn't compare to the elves of Beleriand.

Morgoth faced the Noldor and the Sindar, nobody among Sauron's enemies could compare to them, Aragorn, Eomer, Imrahil were nothing compared to the Noldor, and Morgoth was only defeated when the Valar sent their army, which included Vanyar and Noldor who have lived for a long time in Aman (so, they were way more powerful than those living in Middle Earth) and they were guided by Eonwe, a maia, and the most powerful of them all, plus they had the bless of the Valar and of Iluvatar, even though, the war was terrible and as a result, Beleriand was destroyed.

There is an essay written by JRR Tolkien titled "Notes on motives in the Silmarillion"

Tolkien wrote that he constrasted the nature of Sauron's power, concentrated in the One Ring, with that of Morgoth, enormously greater, but disperssed or disseminated into the very matter of Arda: The whole of Middle Earth was Morgoth's ring.

This is extracted from the volume 10 of "The History of Middle Earth". It was a written by Christopher Tolkien based on his father's letters and manuscripts.

05-09-2002, 09:59 PM	#4
Mankáno Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Tirion Posts: 30	Goldur, in a word no. Morgoth's spirit wasn't like the others. He as Sauron was an Ainur, an spirit originated outside Arda, before Arda was created. Sauron was way less powerful than Morgoth, he wasn't not even near as powerful, Sauron was a servant of Morgoth, Morgoth was of a higuer level, in fact, Morgoth was the most powerful of all the Ainur, including Manwe. Of course Sauron's evil spirit was corrupted by Melkor or Morgoth, all evil was originated in Morgoth. The ring had part of Sauron's (not Morgoth) power and was forged using the techniques he learned from the Noldor, which enhanced its power but with or without ring, Sauron was only a shadow of what Morgoth was. Don't forget that Sauron faced enemies much weaker than Morgoth. Sauron was defeated by the army of last alliance, that has some high elves in it but was mostly composed by men and dwarves. And the elves that fought couldn't compare to the elves of Beleriand. Morgoth faced the Noldor and the Sindar, nobody among Sauron's enemies could compare to them, Aragorn, Eomer, Imrahil were nothing compared to the Noldor, and Morgoth was only defeated when the Valar sent their army, which included Vanyar and Noldor who have lived for a long time in Aman (so, they were way more powerful than those living in Middle Earth) and they were guided by Eonwe, a maia, and the most powerful of them all, plus they had the bless of the Valar and of Iluvatar, even though, the war was terrible and as a result, Beleriand was destroyed. There is an essay written by JRR Tolkien titled "Notes on motives in the Silmarillion" Tolkien wrote that he constrasted the nature of Sauron's power, concentrated in the One Ring, with that of Morgoth, enormously greater, but disperssed or disseminated into the very matter of Arda: The whole of Middle Earth was Morgoth's ring. This is extracted from the volume 10 of "The History of Middle Earth". It was a written by Christopher Tolkien based on his father's letters and manuscripts.