Tol-in-Gaurhoth (Isle of Werewolves) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

bilbo_baggins · 05-16-2005, 07:11 PM

I must say Primrose, that you were not one of the people I suspected... I am sorry you died.

And, Kuru, since I had to be absent from the time that you asked until you lynched Prim, I will wait until the werewolf has killed again to try and make guesses.

But I will tell you that they might not be who you think they might be. We got the first few werewolfs because of luck and a little knowledge. The last one will be very difficult to catch.

bilbo_baggins

Shelob · 05-16-2005, 07:49 PM

Addressing the suggested time shift I'm willing to give it a shot in the next game (seeing as my corpse doesn't really care in this one).

I do, however, see one potential problem with this plan.

I spend a lot of time during the day at school (more than the average student because my mom works there and so I'm trapped in the accursed-parent-eating-building) and a fair bit of evening time at work, if a decision is made during the times I'm busy (so say between 8.00 and 15.00 a majority of the villagers vote for player X) I won't have been able to have a say because I'll have been trapped in classes and unable to post before the moderator anounces the decision and play moves into the next stage. Do you understand my concern?

Many Thanks.
Shelob

bilbo_baggins · 05-16-2005, 08:07 PM

I thought of the same thing. If the players posted in record time, the game could go through three phases in six hours.

Perhaps there would have to be a minimun time span before the next phase begins?

Just a thought.

**The Saucepan Man** · 05-17-2005, 03:17 AM

Since I will be moderating the next game of Werewolf, it falls to me to make a final decision on the timing. My thoughts are set out below, and will be implemented for the next game unless there are any strong (and valid) objections.

Taking into account the comments made so far, I suggest that DAY lasts a minimum of 12 hours and a maximum of 24 hours. This should give the Villagers ample time in which to discuss their thoughts, make their accusations and cast their votes. I am going to introduce a “no retractions” rule. In other words, once you cast your vote, you cannot retract it and vote for someone else. This is partly to discourage hasty voting and prevent “tactical” votes which are then retracted, but it also means that, once enough votes have been cast to condemn someone (ie a clear majority), that person will be lynched no matter what. If 12 hours have not passed at this point, then discussion may continue up to the 12 hour mark (and any unused votes may be cast, although they will not affect the result). But, if a clear majority has been reached and the 12 hours is up, then there should be no further discussion until the next DAY. I will not always be able to post the “lynch” result straight away, so it will be up to the players to keep an eye on the time and make sure that they observe this rule.

If a clear majority has not been reached by the end of the full 24 hours, then the person with the most votes at that point will be lynched. Any vote that has not been cast by that stage will be lost for that day (although it will not count as a vote against the non-voter). Again, there should be no further discussion once the 24 hours is up, even if there is a delay before the “lynch” result is announced. In the event of a tie, we could either have two lynchings or no lynching. My preference is for the former, but I am open to persuasion on this point.

NIGHT will last a maximum of 12 hours. Any night-time activities (Werewolf attacks, Seer dreams and others to be announced) that are not notified during this period will not take place. But there will be no minimum period for NIGHT. So, if I receive all the necessary notifications before the 12 hours is up, I will post the result as soon as I am able. Once that is done, the next DAY will commence.

Does that make sense? If anyone has any major problems with this proposal, please speak now or for ever hold your peace.

As hinted at above, I will be introducing additional roles for the next game …

Anguirel · 05-17-2005, 04:03 AM

Look forward to it, o Man of Many Saucepans. I'd like to charter myself a place for next time at once, if possible...

Feanor of the Peredhil · 05-17-2005, 05:19 AM

I agree with Anguirel. I'd like a spot in the next game too, if I can have one. And your rules sound good, Anguirel. One thing... I seem to remember one time the phantom mentioned that the game "mafia" has a healer/doctor. I don't remember if it was during this game, or at some other time, but would that be a consideration for our next?

Now, I must be off to a terrifyingly long day at school. I'll pop in and out, but no surprises to you all that I won't be on as much today. It's a busy day already, but I've got my very first art show tonight, plus work, plus work on an expansive project. I won't be home until pretty late.

Shelob · 05-17-2005, 05:33 AM

That sounds like a better plan, though I'm still slightly concerned with missing huge portions of what's going on...but I'm willing to see how it works in actual play and would, if I may, join Anguirel and Feanor in requesting a place in the next game.

My Thanks.

05-16-2005, 07:11 PM	#1
bilbo_baggins Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In my front hallway, grabbing my staff, about to head out my door Posts: 275	I must say Primrose, that you were not one of the people I suspected... I am sorry you died. And, Kuru, since I had to be absent from the time that you asked until you lynched Prim, I will wait until the werewolf has killed again to try and make guesses. But I will tell you that they might not be who you think they might be. We got the first few werewolfs because of luck and a little knowledge. The last one will be very difficult to catch. bilbo_baggins __________________ "For with much wisdom comes much sorrow, and with more knowledge comes more grief."

05-16-2005, 07:49 PM	#2
Shelob Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the abysmal Abyss Mall. Posts: 276	Addressing the suggested time shift I'm willing to give it a shot in the next game (seeing as my corpse doesn't really care in this one). I do, however, see one potential problem with this plan. I spend a lot of time during the day at school (more than the average student because my mom works there and so I'm trapped in the accursed-parent-eating-building) and a fair bit of evening time at work, if a decision is made during the times I'm busy (so say between 8.00 and 15.00 a majority of the villagers vote for player X) I won't have been able to have a say because I'll have been trapped in classes and unable to post before the moderator anounces the decision and play moves into the next stage. Do you understand my concern? Many Thanks. Shelob __________________ A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his name ~Evan Esar. Pan for Everyone!

05-16-2005, 08:07 PM	#3
bilbo_baggins Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In my front hallway, grabbing my staff, about to head out my door Posts: 275	I thought of the same thing. If the players posted in record time, the game could go through three phases in six hours. Perhaps there would have to be a minimun time span before the next phase begins? Just a thought. __________________ "For with much wisdom comes much sorrow, and with more knowledge comes more grief."

05-17-2005, 03:17 AM	#4
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Briefly back from the dead ... Since I will be moderating the next game of Werewolf, it falls to me to make a final decision on the timing. My thoughts are set out below, and will be implemented for the next game unless there are any strong (and valid) objections. Taking into account the comments made so far, I suggest that DAY lasts a minimum of 12 hours and a maximum of 24 hours. This should give the Villagers ample time in which to discuss their thoughts, make their accusations and cast their votes. I am going to introduce a “no retractions” rule. In other words, once you cast your vote, you cannot retract it and vote for someone else. This is partly to discourage hasty voting and prevent “tactical” votes which are then retracted, but it also means that, once enough votes have been cast to condemn someone (ie a clear majority), that person will be lynched no matter what. If 12 hours have not passed at this point, then discussion may continue up to the 12 hour mark (and any unused votes may be cast, although they will not affect the result). But, if a clear majority has been reached and the 12 hours is up, then there should be no further discussion until the next DAY. I will not always be able to post the “lynch” result straight away, so it will be up to the players to keep an eye on the time and make sure that they observe this rule. If a clear majority has not been reached by the end of the full 24 hours, then the person with the most votes at that point will be lynched. Any vote that has not been cast by that stage will be lost for that day (although it will not count as a vote against the non-voter). Again, there should be no further discussion once the 24 hours is up, even if there is a delay before the “lynch” result is announced. In the event of a tie, we could either have two lynchings or no lynching. My preference is for the former, but I am open to persuasion on this point. NIGHT will last a maximum of 12 hours. Any night-time activities (Werewolf attacks, Seer dreams and others to be announced) that are not notified during this period will not take place. But there will be no minimum period for NIGHT. So, if I receive all the necessary notifications before the 12 hours is up, I will post the result as soon as I am able. Once that is done, the next DAY will commence. Does that make sense? If anyone has any major problems with this proposal, please speak now or for ever hold your peace. As hinted at above, I will be introducing additional roles for the next game … __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

05-17-2005, 04:03 AM	#5
Anguirel Byronic Brand Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The 1590s Posts: 2,778	Me too. We're a revenant lot. Look forward to it, o Man of Many Saucepans. I'd like to charter myself a place for next time at once, if possible... __________________ Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter -Il Lupo Fenriso

05-17-2005, 05:19 AM	#6
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	I agree with Anguirel. I'd like a spot in the next game too, if I can have one. And your rules sound good, Anguirel. One thing... I seem to remember one time the phantom mentioned that the game "mafia" has a healer/doctor. I don't remember if it was during this game, or at some other time, but would that be a consideration for our next? Now, I must be off to a terrifyingly long day at school. I'll pop in and out, but no surprises to you all that I won't be on as much today. It's a busy day already, but I've got my very first art show tonight, plus work, plus work on an expansive project. I won't be home until pretty late. __________________ peace

05-17-2005, 05:33 AM	#7
Shelob Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: At the abysmal Abyss Mall. Posts: 276	That sounds like a better plan, though I'm still slightly concerned with missing huge portions of what's going on...but I'm willing to see how it works in actual play and would, if I may, join Anguirel and Feanor in requesting a place in the next game. My Thanks. __________________ A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his name ~Evan Esar. Pan for Everyone!