Giggles

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

I agree wholeheartedly. But this is the problem with judging Jackson by Tolkien's standards. Jackson's approach and intentions were different in many significant respects, and understandable (in my view) by reference to today's "mass market" approach to films such as these.

It's true. You can't judge Jackson by Tolkien standards, because the two are separate entities. Example: the song Mrs. Robinson. Yesterday I listened to two versions... Simon and Garfunkle's and Frank Sinatra's. Both excellent in their own right, and completely uncomparable. I mean... all you have to do is listen to the first few chords and you automatically think "What? This isn't Mrs. Robinson as I know it!" But that doesn't mean that it's not Mrs. Robinson, and that doesn't make it bad. It just makes it different. Right Saucie?

But at the same time, some of the comedic lines in the Movies could effectively go in all of those "What they would never say" threads that keep springing up. I mean... honestly now, how many of you ever in your right mind imagined Gimli, proud and noble Dwarf that he is, drunkenly muttering that "It's the Dwarves that going swimming with little hairy women." I wasn't offended, per say, but I certainly thought that that line was completely... well... unfunny. If I'd been hanging out with a group of guy friends and one of them said something that (a) lame, (b) uncultured, (c) potentially offensive... I'd smack him. And yes, Keeper, because I know a rebuttal is coming, I understand that this is pre-Middle Ages, things were uncultured, people were slobs, and men were men. That doesn't make the line any less unfunny.