Gandalf Vs. The Witch King - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

alatar · 03-25-2005, 01:42 PM

Nice post, narfforc.

However, as Essex would say, there are examples throughout Tolkien's world where a being that is ontologically 'lower' defeats/hampers/fights a being that is higher in the scheme of things. Here are a few that I could easily cite:

- Morgoth vs Luthien/Beren
- Sauron vs Luthien
- Morgoth vs Fingolfin
- Glaurung vs Dwarves
- Smaug vs Bard
- Gothmog (Lord of Balrogs) vs Ecthelion of the Fountain
- Balrog vs Gandalf Diminished
- King Nazgul vs Eowyn
- Troll vs Pippin

Not that PJ cares...

narfforc · 03-26-2005, 03:16 AM

Point taken Alatar, But we din`t want to see Gandalf humiliated did we. And Guinivere, PJ made great claims as to being a fan of Tolkien, I think we now see that he meant that he had read LotR a couple of times.

03-26-2005, 03:16 AM	#2
narfforc Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Muddy-earth Posts: 1,297	Point taken Alatar, But we din`t want to see Gandalf humiliated did we. And Guinivere, PJ made great claims as to being a fan of Tolkien, I think we now see that he meant that he had read LotR a couple of times. Last edited by narfforc; 03-26-2005 at 03:20 AM.

03-25-2005, 01:42 PM	#1
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	Nice post, narfforc. However, as Essex would say, there are examples throughout Tolkien's world where a being that is ontologically 'lower' defeats/hampers/fights a being that is higher in the scheme of things. Here are a few that I could easily cite: - Morgoth vs Luthien/Beren - Sauron vs Luthien - Morgoth vs Fingolfin - Glaurung vs Dwarves - Smaug vs Bard - Gothmog (Lord of Balrogs) vs Ecthelion of the Fountain - Balrog vs Gandalf Diminished - King Nazgul vs Eowyn - Troll vs Pippin Not that PJ cares...