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Mithalwen · 02-27-2005, 11:51 AM

There might be a much more prosaic explanation, I am not a great Elvish scholar, I have noticed that Tolkien often gives descriptive names for his female characters... With Arwen, after a few try outs he just calls Elrond's daughter "Noble maiden", which is what she is. Erendis means " Lonely bride", Aredhel "noble elf". I know we have a tendancy to analyse everything to the nth degree, but maybe when he needed a name for this minor character, eldest of the wise women - he simply called her "ancient" (which of course does not have competely negative connotations (cf the elvish name for Bombadil, Iarwain - rendered as "eldest").

After all, at the time LOTR was published, I don't suppose that he ever expected that many people would find out waht these names meant.

02-27-2005, 11:51 AM	#17
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	There might be a much more prosaic explanation, I am not a great Elvish scholar, I have noticed that Tolkien often gives descriptive names for his female characters... With Arwen, after a few try outs he just calls Elrond's daughter "Noble maiden", which is what she is. Erendis means " Lonely bride", Aredhel "noble elf". I know we have a tendancy to analyse everything to the nth degree, but maybe when he needed a name for this minor character, eldest of the wise women - he simply called her "ancient" (which of course does not have competely negative connotations (cf the elvish name for Bombadil, Iarwain - rendered as "eldest"). After all, at the time LOTR was published, I don't suppose that he ever expected that many people would find out waht these names meant. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace