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Shade of Carn Dûm
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I'm familiar with "rule of thumb", and I see the connection. But even so, a "rule of thumb" is a LOT less rigid a measurement than using an measuring instrument, like a ruler.
Rule; 1. Governing Power, authority. 2. A prescribed direction for conduct, a regulation. 3. The body of regulations prescribed by a founder. 4. Usual, customary course of action or behavior. 5. A generalized statement that describes what is true in most cases. 6. A standard method for solving a problem. 7. A subordinate regulation governing a particular matter. 8. A straight edged strip, wood, metal, etc, used for measuring lengths. Anyway, I think Tolkien, who was a tremendous etymologist and a Professor of English, knew all the connotations, interpretations and meanings of the word rule, and I still think it makes sense.
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Tolkien generally referred to Hobbits as if they could be easily transplanted to the twentieth century and not be noticed, excepting their size, of course.
- Apologies if that makes me sound the arrogant know-it-all. I tried to state in a factual manner what I've learned. - (An aside Note: I'm doing a report on Tolkien and learning a great many things which I never knew before and of which I would still be ignorant if not for the joys of English class.)
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The phrase "as a rule" is used by the members of the Notion Club.
So the general idea is that the phrase is used to show that Hobbits are more modern?
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To me it connotes (intened or not) a sense of depth to the subject of the sentence. Well, at least when the sentence is describing a social or cultural subject. Sort of a historical depth device. We do something, we figure out which is the best way to do this something, and so we wind up doing something this way "as a rule".
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