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There are examples of being losing power and retaining it after they make these items, such as Melkor's perversion of Eru's creatures which weakened Melkor's actual powers. An example of beings retaining essence would be Galadrial and her servants making the Elven Cloaks for the Fellowship. Were the cloaks so minor that they didn't take anything noticable from their creators? Or is personal 'essence' replenishable to an extent? I don't know the answer to that question. I'll have to think on it and post more later. Addendum: How come nobody has mentioned Dwarf Runes yet? There was supposedly a type of 'power' within the ancient runes the Dwarves placed upon things. |
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I mean, the Silmarils were about as holy as they came but the elven cloaks did not convey much more than camouflage. They did not do much to protect Merry and Pippin when they were in the hands of the orcs (although they probably did help in the escape). Hmm…random thought... Knowing how much the orcs hated all things elven, I wonder why they did not tear the elf cloaks to pieces when they captured the hobbits? Regarding dwarf runes… It is kind of hard to say. We are not given a whole lot of information about them (practically nil). They were likely some form of “lore” that the dwarves were capable of performing.
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The Elven-cloak was just to bring it to the Third Age.
Wait, how about the Barrow-blade? The Uruks feared to hold it. No less than the Witch-King of Angmar succumbed to it. You see what I'm telling here? Just the mere presence of evil isn't enough to corrupt. You have to go in deep, alter something fundamental, or wait for the person to succumb. A lake can't succumb to evil, so you have to change the fundamental aspect of the lake. Ulmo sang the lake to be holy. Morgoth's music (perhaps through Glaurung) crept in to defile this theme. That's the magic in it.
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Perhaps Ivrin was simply a very "clean" place, very pure, unstained, and unblemished, but nothing more than that.
The Silmarils, the barrow-swords, the elven cloaks, lembas, etc., these all had some sort of power imbued in them through their makers, which made them anathema to evil. Need Ivrin have been the same? After all, Ivrin is never actually said to "repel" evil in the way that any of the above do. So here's the basic thought I've got going: Ivrin was a place that more or less "untouched" by evil, and was thus very pure and clean, and therefore very soothing to those coming in from a much more stained world. However, Ivrin had no inherent "resistance" to evil of its own, and thus it did not take much for Glaurung to defile its waters. Just my two cents worth....
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