What colour is Legolas` hair? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Assasin · 01-24-2005, 09:44 AM

Oh. Well, I would think his hare would be brown.

AbercrombieOfRohan · 01-24-2005, 10:44 AM

EUREKA! I have found it at last! Mallapin is the name of Elmerf's son, the hare that caused the sundering of the hares of Mirkwood and lead the remnant of his people south and defeated the remaining evil hares of Dol Guldur that the White council missed.

So family tree looks like this right?
Father?
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Caerwen & nameless brother& Elmerf=Yosmite
'
Mallapin

Sorry the family tree didn't work quite as well as I had hoped I'll fix...

AbercrombieOfRohan · 01-24-2005, 11:53 AM

Alright I hope this works... http://www.fakeurl.com/elmerf

wilwarin538 · 01-24-2005, 06:46 PM

Thank you very much for that very nice tree Abercrombie, its beautiful.

Mallapin, that sounds right. I like that name very much. So Elmerf's brother took the throne, I suppose he needs a name also, and about Elmerf's mother, I can't remember her name but, I believe she was Galadriel's hare for a time, but she favoured Celebrian and left Middle-Earth with her.

~*Wilwa*~

AbercrombieOfRohan · 01-24-2005, 07:05 PM

Just keep the names coming folks (I don't have time to look them all up). I will update my website as is necessary. It will be our history within a history. The part Tolkien never got to write becuase he was too distracted with the possible ending of the world.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 01-24-2005, 11:00 PM

Ahem. Anywhen, here was the promised analysis of the Athrabeth. It was very hard to analyse, as it was written rapidly in pencil, and the manuscript is blurred at many places.

Wow. He's really posting it on time.

[Elmerf: ]‘[ I ]n the great ages after, Men shall see thee, and say “I lyk legolas more, hes soooo hot!!!!!1”, yet me they will not know, for I have done no mighty deed, save be coloured [?purple].’
‘Know then,’ said Legolas, ‘that thou they will see, and thou they will know, for the fates of the Rabbit-realms of Mirkwood are entwined with the continued life of the “What colour is Legolas` hair?” thread, and thus is the wrath of the Wight stayed upon the frivolity of those Men. And they will hold thee in reverence.’
‘But my fur is [?purple], and my tail cottony, and thus I fell to evil ways. What then will they say if they knew that the Rabbit-realms were mine no longer, that [?my] . . . . . * took them from me by force, and that I am left for a wandering waif, with an androgynous Elf and a snoring Dwarf for company?’
‘What is “androgynous”?’ and Legolas took a threatening step towards the hare.

__________
* The word is very blurred, and the only part clear is the ending “–er”. [Editor’s note]

Athrabeth Elmerf ah Legolas, Purple Book

There are many things to say about the work. Christopher Tolkien dropped the analysis on the entire text, saying ‘I have not the ability, nor the temperance, to analyse the fashion sense of the two in discourse.’

But here we have a possible solution to the usurper’s question. The “-er” part might help, as it excludes his son from the takeover, as Fea had said. But what else ends in “-er”? Brother? Sister? Father? Mother? Driver? Butter? Deer? Are the deer of Mirkwood prone to staging coup d’ etat?

On a final note, the “snoring Dwarf” Elmerf and Legolas had for company could very well be Gimli, which means that perhaps Leggy’s Dwarven “friend” joined them in exile after the ousting of Elmerf.

AbercrombieOfRohan · 01-25-2005, 04:26 PM

Excellent Find NIL, thank you immensely for sharing that with us. So this means that Mallapin did not usurp the throne from Elmerf, but Mallapin did in fact inherit the throne, one way or another. Right? No disagreements?

So then who did take the throne? Fea's post does lead me to believe that it was indeed his brother (Prince Johnamir? Is that his name?) that stole or tried to steal the throne from Elmerf. Did Elmerf ever reclaim his throne before Mallapin became king? I mean after he went off and had his adventures with Legolas did he return to Mirkwood and oust (Johnamir?) from the throne?

01-24-2005, 06:46 PM	#4
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	they all need names! Thank you very much for that very nice tree Abercrombie, its beautiful. Mallapin, that sounds right. I like that name very much. So Elmerf's brother took the throne, I suppose he needs a name also, and about Elmerf's mother, I can't remember her name but, I believe she was Galadriel's hare for a time, but she favoured Celebrian and left Middle-Earth with her. ~*Wilwa~ __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit* Fenris Muffin

01-24-2005, 11:00 PM	#6
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	*The family tree was so* cute! Melikes!** Ahem. Anywhen, here was the promised analysis of the Athrabeth. It was very hard to analyse, as it was written rapidly in pencil, and the manuscript is blurred at many places. Wow. He's really posting it on time. [Elmerf: ]‘[ I ]n the great ages after, Men shall see thee, and say “I lyk legolas more, hes soooo hot!!!!!1”, yet me they will not know, for I have done no mighty deed, save be coloured [?purple].’ ‘Know then,’ said Legolas, ‘that thou they will see, and thou they will know, for the fates of the Rabbit-realms of Mirkwood are entwined with the continued life of the “What colour is Legolas` hair?” thread, and thus is the wrath of the Wight stayed upon the frivolity of those Men. And they will hold thee in reverence.’ ‘But my fur is [?purple], and my tail cottony, and thus I fell to evil ways. What then will they say if they knew that the Rabbit-realms were mine no longer, that [?my] . . . . . * took them from me by force, and that I am left for a wandering waif, with an androgynous Elf and a snoring Dwarf for company?’ ‘What is “androgynous”?’ and Legolas took a threatening step towards the hare. __________ * The word is very blurred, and the only part clear is the ending “–er”. [Editor’s note] Athrabeth Elmerf ah Legolas, Purple Book There are many things to say about the work. Christopher Tolkien dropped the analysis on the entire text, saying ‘I have not the ability, nor the temperance, to analyse the fashion sense of the two in discourse.’ But here we have a possible solution to the usurper’s question. The “-er” part might help, as it excludes his son from the takeover, as Fea had said. But what else ends in “-er”? Brother? Sister? Father? Mother? Driver? Butter? Deer? Are the deer of Mirkwood prone to staging coup d’ etat? On a final note, the “snoring Dwarf” Elmerf and Legolas had for company could very well be Gimli, which means that perhaps Leggy’s Dwarven “friend” joined them in exile after the ousting of Elmerf. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good... Last edited by Nilpaurion Felagund; 01-25-2005 at 09:36 PM. Reason: word waffling

01-24-2005, 09:44 AM	#1
Assasin Wight Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In a desert. Posts: 142	Oh. Well, I would think his hare would be brown.

01-24-2005, 10:44 AM	#2
AbercrombieOfRohan Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 311	EUREKA! I have found it at last! Mallapin is the name of Elmerf's son, the hare that caused the sundering of the hares of Mirkwood and lead the remnant of his people south and defeated the remaining evil hares of Dol Guldur that the White council missed. So family tree looks like this right? Father? ' Caerwen & nameless brother& Elmerf=Yosmite ' Mallapin Sorry the family tree didn't work quite as well as I had hoped I'll fix...

01-24-2005, 11:53 AM	#3
AbercrombieOfRohan Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 311	Alright I hope this works... http://www.fakeurl.com/elmerf

01-24-2005, 07:05 PM	#5
AbercrombieOfRohan Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 311	Just keep the names coming folks (I don't have time to look them all up). I will update my website as is necessary. It will be our history within a history. The part Tolkien never got to write becuase he was too distracted with the possible ending of the world.

01-25-2005, 04:26 PM	#7
AbercrombieOfRohan Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 311	Excellent Find NIL, thank you immensely for sharing that with us. So this means that Mallapin did not usurp the throne from Elmerf, but Mallapin did in fact inherit the throne, one way or another. Right? No disagreements? So then who did take the throne? Fea's post does lead me to believe that it was indeed his brother (Prince Johnamir? Is that his name?) that stole or tried to steal the throne from Elmerf. Did Elmerf ever reclaim his throne before Mallapin became king? I mean after he went off and had his adventures with Legolas did he return to Mirkwood and oust (Johnamir?) from the throne?