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Old 12-10-2004, 02:16 PM   #1
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You guys are so mean! Legolas is not Captain Obvious, and you all really act like it is his fault. If you are trying to blame someone, then blame Peter Jackson! Not the actual character.
I do blame PJ, for giving a great character such horrid lines. I also blame Orlando, because, even with horribly obvious lines, he could definitely delivered them better. Some of the lines could have been much better had they not been delivered in such a toneless and consistant manner.


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In the real thing, Legolas is not Mr. Obvious!
Indeed not. In fact, Book!Legolas is one of my favourite characters.


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Instead of trying to talk about someone, try this: your so called "cheezy" lines were cheezy because you put them there. The fact that you chose those lines for this forum makes you cheezy instead!
I agree with Boromir88; that made no sense. What exactly were you trying to say there?


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If you are going to talk about Legolas, read the real thing, the book! Then you can determine whether or not he was Mr. Obvious. After all, it was just a movie! Leave Legolas alone!
I've read the books ten times. And, in the books, Legolas has a much more compelling and interesting character. In the movies, however, he gets a very raw deal; he's changed from clever and dynamic to a cardboard-cutout Action Teflon Elf™. Personally, I didn't like the change much. PJ and Orlando both could have done a better job.

Oh, and it's "Captain Obvious", by the way.

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Old 12-10-2004, 02:56 PM   #2
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your so called "cheezy" lines were cheezy because you put them there
Possibly the "royal you," ie, PJ.

Having complained about all the cheese in LotR, I can't really imagine a cheeseless version...
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Old 12-10-2004, 04:08 PM   #3
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I wasn't aware that this thread was for the discussion of blame. I thought we were just spouting our favourite cheesy lines we love to hate.

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It seems to me that perhaps the script was not written specifically for the linguists in the audience. I'm not crazy about the screenplays of the movies, but like I said, we love to hate those cheesy lines.

"We're not alone" and all the other dialog surrounding Frodo and Sam in the beginning of The Two Towers really ran me off that movie. It wasn't the strongest opening, but I've forgiven them.
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Old 12-10-2004, 04:25 PM   #4
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we love to hate those cheesy lines.
Indeed we do. It's the weird little lines that let us have fun with the films. If they were all completely serious and well done, it wouldn't be as amusing to watch. Prime chances to MST!

How about Gollum's song at the exit of Shelob's lair?

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Old 12-10-2004, 07:40 PM   #5
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I wasn't aware that this thread was for the discussion of blame. I thought we were just spouting our favourite cheesy lines we love to hate.
Quite. This thread is in danger of going up in flames.

If you must discuss so-called "cheesy" lines in the films, then stick to those, rather than getting shirty with one another.

Otherwise I shall take great pleasure in closing this thread.

(Personally, I think that the main lesson of this thread is that one person's "cheeze" is another person's delightful dessert.)
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Old 12-10-2004, 10:23 PM   #6
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(Personally, I think that the main lesson of this thread is that one person's "cheeze" is another person's delightful dessert.)
Yummy, Cheesecake!
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Old 12-11-2004, 09:25 PM   #7
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Ughh! How did I know that was coming? (I don't like using smilies, so consider this a reminder that I'm only joking around.)
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Otherwise I shall take great pleasure in closing this thread.
It's good to know that you take great pleasure in something...

Also The Saucepan Man, good point about the cheese/dessert comment that Elianna liked so much (again, only kidding). Some parts...like for example all the stunts that our beloved Legolas achieves over the course of three movies may make some puke(or worse, flame). But I still love how the music swells and moves to cut time and how everyone in the theater's breath seems to catch and a smile comes to their faces when Legolas slays the oliphaunt/rides down stairs/defies gravity. It's just some of those great movie moments that all action films have, and I'm a sucker for them. But as Ed the Sock would say, "It's still cheesy!"
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