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Old 12-09-2004, 03:30 PM   #33
davem
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Originally Posted by Fordim
For the answer to this question (and many many more) you can go have a look at the. . .oh no. . .no!. . .NO!! It can't be, not again, not the. . .the. . .

CANONICITY THREAD!!!

*DUM dum dummmmmm*
Well, i'm sure we're all grateful to Fordim for that.. Though I would like to take this opportunity to remind him of the possibility of getting negative rep on these boards.

I'd also like to ask for sympathy here from all my fellow downers, as I just spent nearly an hour writing a post on the symbolism of the Dragon as 'Death' & how the Orcs are different in the sense that they are potential victims of this cosmic 'fact' - hence the Dragon would not need to 'repent'. The Orcish question arises only if Evil is a corruption of Good, not if it is a fact in itself. If Evil is an equal & opposite force then Orcs would be a physical manifestation of it as elves & men are of Good. Hence the opportunity for repentance is only necessary if the Orcs need a chance to return to what they had been created to be, not if they are what they were intended to be.

So the question Tolkien confronts us with is about our own beliefs - whether we are Manichaeans or Boethians....

Or something like that - all I can say is that it was up to my usual standard, & if anyone wants to rep me on it out of sympathy I won't be too proud to accept. Aragorn's court is getting too crowded now with the usual riff-raff & I need my privacy to compose my beautiful posts....

Which then get lost forever!!!!!!

(wanders off into the night sulking & looking for spiders to stamp on.......)
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