I smell cheeze.

[THE Ka]

Ok, I am a major fan of boromir, and i know i might be poking fun at his character for this... Really people, this is going to be hard. But, this is another annoying line from the movies that makes me really mad that it was ever uttered.


After Pippin ever so lovely alerted the orcs of moria and boromir run to the door to try and shut it,

"Great.They have a cave troll." (It seems we have more than one captain obvious...)

Gahh! BAD! No! No! This is one of the lines that i think is an abomination.


~Regretful Ka~

[Orominuialwen]

I certainly doubt dwarf women have beards...

Actually they do. I can't find the exact quote at the moment, but Tolkien does mention this in LotR, along with the foolish belief of some men that there are no Dwarf women, and the Dwarves just spring out of stone. I clearly remember having a conversation with my brother on the subject back when we were first reading LotR, which was before TTT came out.

[Oddwen]

Theoden "I know your face,"

TTT is my least favorite of the Three. Partly because every time one turns around, someone is saying "I know your name!" So, I just replace a choice word.

"My name, Sméagol!"

"Yes, that was my name...Sméagol the Grey."

"I know your face. Sméagol!"

All of which are quite cheezy to my ears.

[The Only Real Estel]

"Great.They have a cave troll." (It seems we have more than one captain obvious...)

Actually I think it only goes "They have a cave troll", but that's not really the point here. I don't mind the line because nobody else knew there was anything out there until they saw the arrows hit the door; and even then I'm sure they just thought there were orcs. So since the majority of the fellowship didn't know the cave troll was about, it couldn't really be an 'obvious' line. I didn't mind it, in case you couldn't tell .

[Boromir88]

I love that line, and it comes from the often witty/satirist Boromir . I can imagine Boromir saying something like that.

"But the enemy holds the eastern bank," objected Boromir. "And even if you pass the Gates of Argonath and come unmolested to the Tindrock, what will you do then? Leap down the Falls and land in the marshes?"

Also, in reply to the Theoden "I know your face." I found that line rather touching, he was just "healed" and then he sees Eowyn, "I know your face." Anyway, maybe I'm biased because I happen to adore Bernard Hill .

[THE Ka]

Lovely line none the less...


*Upon boromir's remark, Legolas reveals that he "can" fly...

L: "Sure you can! Watch meeeeeeeeeeeeee!"


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Yes, another stupid line from Ka's unlimited imagination...

[Rimbaud]

Talking of cheese: the rearing white horse, with accompanying whinny effect anyone?

[Elianna]

I find the lines which are *ahem* stolen from Star Wars very cheesy. And what's worse, all the rest of the scene is great.

Éowyn: I'm going to save you.
Théoden: You already have........(And I also think he'll continue) Éowyn, you were right about me. You were right. Tell your brother: you were right.

Haven't figured out what Éowyn'd be right about, but she'd still be right....

[Vanwatholiel]

You guys are so mean! Legolas is not Captain Obvious, and you all really act like it is his fault. If you are trying to blame someone, then blame Peter Jackson! Not the actual character. As if he really has control over his lines in the movie. In the real thing, Legolas is not Mr. Obvious! Instead of trying to talk about someone, try this: your so called "cheezy" lines were cheezy because you put them there. The fact that you chose those lines for this forum makes you cheezy instead! If you are going to talk about Legolas, read the real thing, the book! Then you can determine whether or not he was Mr. Obvious. After all, it was just a movie! Leave Legolas alone! Whew! Now I can breathe. Ok, I'm done yelling.

[The Only Real Estel]

If you are going to talk about Legolas, read the real thing, the book! Then you can determine whether or not he was Mr. Obvious. After all, it was just a movie! Leave Legolas alone! Whew! Now I can breathe

I don't think any of us accuse Legolas of being Cap'n Obvious in the books; just the movies, where his frequent flashes of obviousness have been known to leave me blind for days.

[Boromir88]

If you are going to talk about Legolas, read the real thing, the book!

Been there done that.

Instead of trying to talk about someone, try this: your so called "cheezy" lines were cheezy because you put them there. The fact that you chose those lines for this forum makes you cheezy instead!

This makes absolutely no sense, and before you go on critisizing why don't you read some of my earlier posts, try that....

Edit: I'm sure if I look hard enough I can find corny lines Tolkien has too, in fact I know one.
"Shortcuts make for delays, but inns make for longer ones."
This I find really corny, but that good corny, sort of like your Grandpa's jokes, with that quirky sort of humor. Where "Die Now!," or "A Diversion!," or "I see you!" are just...bad.

Wow, this is the closest I've ever come to giving someone a bad rep. But, I'm a nice guy...maybe too nice.

[Sapphire_Flame]

Originally Posted by Vanwatholiel

You guys are so mean! Legolas is not Captain Obvious, and you all really act like it is his fault. If you are trying to blame someone, then blame Peter Jackson! Not the actual character.

I do blame PJ, for giving a great character such horrid lines. I also blame Orlando, because, even with horribly obvious lines, he could definitely delivered them better. Some of the lines could have been much better had they not been delivered in such a toneless and consistant manner.

In the real thing, Legolas is not Mr. Obvious!

Indeed not. In fact, Book!Legolas is one of my favourite characters.

Instead of trying to talk about someone, try this: your so called "cheezy" lines were cheezy because you put them there. The fact that you chose those lines for this forum makes you cheezy instead!

I agree with Boromir88; that made no sense. What exactly were you trying to say there?

If you are going to talk about Legolas, read the real thing, the book! Then you can determine whether or not he was Mr. Obvious. After all, it was just a movie! Leave Legolas alone!

I've read the books ten times. And, in the books, Legolas has a much more compelling and interesting character. In the movies, however, he gets a very raw deal; he's changed from clever and dynamic to a cardboard-cutout Action Teflon Elf™. Personally, I didn't like the change much. PJ and Orlando both could have done a better job.

Oh, and it's "Captain Obvious", by the way.

Abedithon le,

~ Saphy ~

[the guy who be short]

your so called "cheezy" lines were cheezy because you put them there

Possibly the "royal you," ie, PJ.

Having complained about all the cheese in LotR, I can't really imagine a cheeseless version...

[Ainaserkewen]

I wasn't aware that this thread was for the discussion of blame. I thought we were just spouting our favourite cheesy lines we love to hate.

frequent flashes of obviousness have been known to leave me blind for days.

The Only Real Estel have you been reading Dilbert lately?
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It seems to me that perhaps the script was not written specifically for the linguists in the audience. I'm not crazy about the screenplays of the movies, but like I said, we love to hate those cheesy lines.

"We're not alone" and all the other dialog surrounding Frodo and Sam in the beginning of The Two Towers really ran me off that movie. It wasn't the strongest opening, but I've forgiven them.

[Rikae]

Well, let me just make a disclaimer; I adore Andy Serkis, think he was an excellent Smeagol, and liked him in the other movies I've seen him in too.

But why, oh why, does the Witch King have to have a West London accent? It's Serkis' real accent, and works for Shagrat, but it's just silly from the WiKi. Why Jackson didn't tell him to change it I cannot fathom - he could have.
The accent makes all the WiKi's lines sound incredibly cheesy to me.

[The Only Real Estel]

Originally Posted by hewhoarisesinmight

a terrible line from the film has to be 'They run as if the very whips of their masters are upon them' What is that supposed to mean? It is a pointless change from the book and just makes Legolas sound stupid even though he sounded stupid a lot in the Two Towers

Well it's pretty straightforward to me. It means they're not just plodding along on their way; they're running like they're about to get whipped any second - quite a difference.

But I agree that Legolas has some...uh...interesting lines.

[Finduilas]

What are you all meaning by cheesy? Most of the ones meantioned, I thought halarious.

Poor Legolas. Even some of his reasonably good lines are being picked on . lol, I must say, I hope that if actors ever read these things, that they have a sense of humor.

Cheesy quotes:

What's this? A ranger caught off his guard?

I hate that one.

Let us hunt some orcs.

Kills my sister everytime.

Gandalf told me to keep you safe, and safe is where I'll keep you.

Kinda funny, but redundant

What does your heart tell you?

Is used in to many movies, and sounds really stupid. I mean really, Star Wars can get away with it, seeing as cheesyness is what it's all about, but LotR?

And I could fill the whole page, but I'm getting tired.

[TheGreatElvenWarrior]

Originally Posted by The Elf-warrior

Here are some more cheesy lines in chronological order. From FOTR, "What’s this? A ranger caught off his guard?" combined with Arwen putting a knife at Aragorn's throat. I agree about "what does your heart tell you?" From ROTK

Yeah I agree.

[sallkid]

Ok, first we get

What's this? A ranger caught of his guard?

which is cheesy enough and had me (who was expecting glorfindel) thinking "wow, elves are really effeminite" for about 5 seconds.
Then we get our first bit of elvish.

I'm Arwen, I'm here to help you

WHAT? what a stupid bit of cliche cheese for an introduction to elvish?
and the film lost all interest for me until they left rivendel.

[alatar]

Somebody must have thought that it would 'work,' as there's not a cell in the movie that's there at random. Could these scenes/words played well with the 'date' audience?

Are there some cheesy moments. Sure. I think some of it is part of PJ's personality.

[Folwren]

Many Cheesy lines have been stated here and I will not rehash all of them. But there is one in particular that is neither well executed nor humorous...instead it is merely ... bad ... and that is Aragorn's attrocious line

Let's hunt some orc.

I shudder to think of it and sometimes leave the room before he utters it.

-- Folwren

P.S. I don't care if the script says it's "Let us", Viggo says "Let's" and even if he did say "Let us hunt some orc" it still be just a jolly bad!