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03-19-2002, 06:16 PM | #1 |
Haunting Spirit
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Dwarf Wraiths
I was just curious, why weren't there any Dwarf ringwraiths? Most likely it's because the Dwarf rings were just designed to increase wealth (I think that was the main purpose) and greed. But could someone with profound knowledge clear this up for me?
(And yeah, I'm gonna read about the Rings again, but I'm not a very smart person. [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img] )
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03-19-2002, 06:24 PM | #2 |
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When gandalf was talking about knowing it was the One he said all the nine and sevenhave been accounted for and the three have never been lost so Sauron had the ringgs, also at the council of elrond Glion sttod up and told about what happened at the lonely mountain where a ringwraith offered him the sven and moria back if he could tell him where Bilbo was
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03-19-2002, 07:56 PM | #3 |
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i think that the dwarfs are harder to make evil than men.
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03-19-2002, 09:16 PM | #4 | |
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There were no Dwarven Ringwraiths because the Dewarves could not be turned so easily as Men. Their motivations were too different.
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03-20-2002, 02:01 PM | #5 | |
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The fate of the Seven can be found in LotR, Book 1, Ch. 2:
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03-20-2002, 02:12 PM | #6 |
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Gandalf wasn't 100% certain of the fate of all the Dwarven rings. I've long felt Gloin's sudden discomfort at the Council in Rivendell when the subject of the lost dwarven rings was brought up indicated he new more than he wanted - or was free - to say.
It's just like the dwarves to keep this kind of secret, not lie directly, but simply leave out a crucial secret fact. I suspect Dain had one of the unaccounted for rings (though not the one that was meant to go to Thorin). Part and parcel of why he was not tempted by Sauron's offer. On the subject of why the Dwarves were not so easily turned and there are no Dwarf ringwraiths, it's mentioned in the Silm. that Aule specifically made them tough and resistant to Melkor and his works (Melkor is also known as Morgoth and Sauron was his servant). Dwarves were not imagined in the original song, but fashioned in the image of elves due to Aule's impatience to bring living thinking beings to ME. Since they were imagined by him after the betrayal of Melkor, Aule added specifically to their make-up a resistance to him. Men and Elves were conceived of before Melkor turned to evil, though they came into being later. [ March 20, 2002: Message edited by: Marileangorifurnimaluim ]
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