Elves becoming rustic folk - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

**The Saucepan Man** · 11-23-2004, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by davem

Tolkien does say somewhere that all the Elves feel dran to the West, & even the Sindar would feel that desire if something caused it to awaken in them. Yet it would not be a desire for 'home'.

The quote which forms the basis of this thread implies that there were Elves who remained in Middle-earth. I wonder whether that was because the desire was not awoken in them or because it was not sufficiently strong in them to wrench them away from the land that was their home. Did some Elves just not feel the 'pull' as much as others?

drigel · 11-24-2004, 08:01 AM

Avari: I would think that if one feels compelled to refuse the summons of the Valar at the onset, there is not much else that could persuade one. The only factor time would have, is if possibly there had been enough tragedy or suffering to an individual, that the decision to leave the corporal world is made.

Rimbaud · 11-24-2004, 08:35 AM

SpM - I think the point is that the Elves had distinct groupings, with differing opinions, as is natural - and also that, in this instance, free will over-rode the effect of the 'pull'.

11-24-2004, 08:35 AM	#3
Rimbaud The Perilous Poet Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Heart of the matter Posts: 1,062	SpM - I think the point is that the Elves had distinct groupings, with differing opinions, as is natural - and also that, in this instance, free will over-rode the effect of the 'pull'. __________________ And all the rest is literature

11-24-2004, 08:01 AM	#2
drigel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: commonplace city Posts: 518	Avari: I would think that if one feels compelled to refuse the summons of the Valar at the onset, there is not much else that could persuade one. The only factor time would have, is if possibly there had been enough tragedy or suffering to an individual, that the decision to leave the corporal world is made.