power vs greatness - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Salocin · 03-27-2003, 03:26 PM

Um... [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

OK, the initial shock is over.

Frankly, I think your wrong. Luthien is way more powerful than Feanor. Who else could descise one self as a vampire (hey, ever notice that is the only place where vampires are ever mentioned?, I wounder if there is already a topic on that...), utterly defeted Sauron and kicked him out of his own fortress, sneek into Angband, put Melkor and ALL the people in his court to sleep, steel Melkor's most prized posetion right from under his nose (well, above his head),etc,etc. No one else (aside from Beren) ever left Angband without Melkor's aproval. Galadrial is also up their. She could keep her mind from Sauron and still read his. Maybe greatness and power are slightly different, but I have yet to see an example showing this. I would argue that greatness has very little to do with goodness, or at least can have one of too conotations: with goodness or without. Notice Sauron was one of the greatest of the fallen Maia, and Glaurung was the greatest dragon. In both cases "great" means "powerful" and in neither case was it a measure of goodness.

03-27-2003, 03:26 PM	#3
Salocin Wight Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Zion Posts: 106	Um... [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] OK, the initial shock is over. Frankly, I think your wrong. Luthien is way more powerful than Feanor. Who else could descise one self as a vampire (hey, ever notice that is the only place where vampires are ever mentioned?, I wounder if there is already a topic on that...), utterly defeted Sauron and kicked him out of his own fortress, sneek into Angband, put Melkor and ALL the people in his court to sleep, steel Melkor's most prized posetion right from under his nose (well, above his head),etc,etc. No one else (aside from Beren) ever left Angband without Melkor's aproval. Galadrial is also up their. She could keep her mind from Sauron and still read his. Maybe greatness and power are slightly different, but I have yet to see an example showing this. I would argue that greatness has very little to do with goodness, or at least can have one of too conotations: with goodness or without. Notice Sauron was one of the greatest of the fallen Maia, and Glaurung was the greatest dragon. In both cases "great" means "powerful" and in neither case was it a measure of goodness. __________________ Christ is Risen!