Saruman's ending (PJ's way) P.S. Spoilers!

[Nimrodel_9]

I was playing LotR Trivial Pursuit with my sister last December, when we came upon the card that asks, "Who kills Grima Wormtongue?" When I discovered that it was Legolas, I was very put out. I told my friend at school, and she (being a Leggy-Lover) was over joyed to learn that her handsome prince was to be the one who kills Grima. I argued this over with her for quite some time, and she still dosen`t see why it shouldn`t be him. I knew why it shouldn`t be him, but I never really could explain to her. So, with your permission, Eomer, I shall like to steal your words, seeing how I couldn`t find them myself.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Gather round, my children, and bask in the warm glow of the only popular post I ever made!

Having said what I did though, I was always fearful that they would do the scene badly in the film. Nevertheless, I will not criticise on the basis of rumours (despite being unhappily convincing rumours).

There's no need to change the title Boromir, apparently they filmed about 5 different endings for ol' Curunir. Plenty to debate.

[Encaitare]

I have probably the most reliable source (pre-movie) of Legolas killing Grima: The LotR Trivia Pursuit game. One of the questions is "Who kills Grime Wormtongue?" Answer: "Legolas" Can't get much more straightforward than that.

Blast.

As far as I can see, he's the only logical choice to do it, unless you want Aragorn to?

The logical choice? I suppose so. But that doesn't mean I have to like it. I don't think Aragorn would kill him, since he did spare him at Edoras. Theoden would kill him if he had the chance... in fact, I'm not sure what I do want. What Essex said about Legolas shooting Grima after he threw the Palantir is fine by me, I guess. I'll have to think on it. I just don't want to see him laughing like a maniac and then having the arrow crash down into his skull, like Estel said it might be.

Picture the scene in the movies where Legolas, say, kills Grima, and all the people in the cinema cheer and holler. That would encourage the audience to completely miss and ignore the point of Grima's pitiful end. This is not some nameless Orc for one of the good guys to slice open. Rather this is an important representation of a hopeless and pathetic man. This death is a genuinely melancholy one, and needs the proper treatment which Tolkien gave it.

As the lone Grima fangirl, I take off my hat to you, Eomer.

[Elianna]

As the lone Grime fangirl...

You stand not alone. It's very strange, and I can't explain it, but you stand not alone.

[Encaitare]

Well, I was pondering this last night, and I've come to the following conclusion: however terrible PJ's version of Grima's death is, I figure I will grow to tolerate it. Not accept it, but tolerate it, as we tolerate XenArwen and Gimli somehow knowing whata nervous system is.

It's very strange, and I can't explain it

Nor can I. Grima fangirls unite!

[Elianna]

Along the lines of a question gorthaur_cruel brought up:

how can you shoot an arrow to the top of Orthanc?

I looked it up: Lego's bow, strung with elf-hair and carved from mallorn wood, has a maximum effective range of 400 yards. Orthanc is "only" about 170 yards tall. He could make it easily.

I agree with Encaitare. Whatever they end up doing, I'll eventually get over it. At least now, with the new promo I've seen of the EE, I'm looking forward to Dec. 14 instead of dreading it because of what they were going to do with Saruman and Gríma.

[Encaitare]

I looked it up: Lego's bow, strung with elf-hair and carved from mallorn wood, has a maximum effective range of 400 yards. Orthanc is "only" about 170 yards tall. He could make it easily.

I assume you found the bit about the bow in "Weapons and Warfare," but where did you find Orthanc's height? 170 yards really isn't all that tall, if you think about it... less than two football fields. I always imagined it being taller.