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Old 09-15-2004, 12:18 AM   #1
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It was when Boromir had his mad spell and scared Frodo into leaving the Fellowship.

From a reader's standpoint, I could tell it was only going to be a momentary thing. Tolkien described the look on his face as a 'spasm'. Those usually don't last long.

Men of Gondor were true to their word. It was like watching two friends go at it, I knew it was some weird madness coming over him, and that it would pass. But Frodo certainly didn't.

Then, I opened Book 3 and the first page had "The Departure of Boromir" written on it. Unsure as to whether he was just heading to Gondor or not, I read on, and WHAM! My favorite character got arrowed to death by a band of Orcs.

It took a lot of re-reading of those scenes to fully take in exactly what happened during that frantic mess on Amon Hen.
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Old 09-17-2004, 02:07 AM   #2
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In rode the Lord of the Nazgul. A great black shape against the fires beyond he loomed up, grown to a vast menace of despair. In rode the Lord of the Nazgul, under the archway that no enemy ever yet had passed, and all fled before his face.
All save one. There waiting, silent and still in the space before the Gate, sat Gandalf upon Shadowfax: Shadowfax who alone among the free horses of the earth endured the terror, unmoving, steadfast as a graven image in Rath Dinen.
"You cannot enter here," said Gandalf, and the huge shadow halted. "Go back to the abyss prepared for you! Go back! Fall into the nothingness that awaits you and your Master. Go!"
The Black Rider flung back his hood, and behold! he had a kingly crown; and yet upon no head visible was it set. The red fires shone between it and the mantled shoulders vast and dark. From a mouth unseen there came a deadly laughter.
"Old fool!" he said. "Old fool! This is my hour. Do you not know Death when you see it? Die now and curse in vain!" And with that he lifted high his sword and flames ran down the blade.

Gandalf did not move. And in that very moment, away behind in some courtyard of the City, a cock crowed. Shrill and clear he crowed, recking nothing of wizardry and war, welcoming only the morning that in the sky far above the shadows of death was coming with the dawn.
And as if in answer there came from far away another note. Horns, horns, horns. In dark Mindolluin's sides they dimly echoed. Great horns of the North wildly blowing. Rohan had come at last.
I'm surprised only one person said this scene. It's really great how Tolkien ends with the last two paragraphs. It somehow seems to darken and intensify the mood. I was really disappointed that PJ cut this scene. Apparently, it's going to be in the EE, but changed so that Gandalf and the Witch King actually fight and Gandalf loses, until the Rohirrim come and distract the Witch King allowing G. to escape. Why does PJ have to cut all these good scenes?
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Old 09-17-2004, 09:27 AM   #3
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The "In rode the Lord of the Nazgul . . ." scene is probably my favorite (the only close competition it has is the Bridge of Khazad-dum). Of all the mistakes Peter Jackson made (and he made a lot), I think removing that scene was the worst.

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Old 09-17-2004, 11:42 AM   #4
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The one that does it for me is the Field of Cormallen where Gandalf calls "Stand. Men of the West! Stand and wait! This is the hour of doom."
I just imagine a great silence....waiting to know if the world is ending. The description of the ruin of Mordor is pretty impressive too.
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Old 09-17-2004, 01:12 PM   #5
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The "In rode the Lord of the Nazgul . . ." scene is probably my favorite (the only close competition it has is the Bridge of Khazad-dum). Of all the mistakes Peter Jackson made (and he made a lot), I think removing that scene was the worst.
But this scene will be in the EE! *small voice*: or so I heard...
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:06 PM   #6
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But this scene will be in the EE! *small voice*: or so I heard...
Read what I said. PJ will put in his version of it. In it, the Lord of the Nazgul is on the fell beast and flies in front of Gandalf. Then Gandalf fights the Witch King, and the Witch King breaks Gandalf's staff. He is distracted by the coming of the Rohirrim, and Gandalf runs away. Pitiful scene. There are numerous evidences, in case u don't believe me.
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