Quantum physics Multiple Universes...no LOTR - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Sapphire_Flame · 08-18-2004, 07:03 PM

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Oh yes, people would still think of elves as really short people that make shoes and help Santa make toys.

And cookies.

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what do you people have against Harry Potter?! You never let it go!

I'm with you on this one, Meela. Can't we all just get along?

A world without LotR would be a very terrifying place indeed. Most fantasy books might never have been written without it. Imagine: no Wizard of Earthsea. No Shanarra. No Sword of Truth. No Harry Potter. I may very well have shrivelled up and died. Or I would be some creepy little goth, sitting in the corner reading Stephen King books.

Who knows what the impact on the rest of literature would be. A great deal of sci-fi may not have been written. And it keeps on spreading...

Abedithon le,

~ Saphy ~

InklingElf · 08-24-2004, 02:40 PM

Our points of views regarding Miss Rowling's Potter are not even beside the question posed my Morsul. While I agree very much with Goomba's views let us ALL refrain from imposing further opinionated statements pertaining Harry Potter. Many respects.

Encaitare · 08-24-2004, 04:08 PM

Thanks for saying what I was just about to post, InklingElf. The HP series are books. They're not evil. Maybe nasty little LotR attention-stealers, but not evil.

(Actually I like HP, so whatever.) But if there was no LotR, there also would be a lack of a lot of good music, such as the composings of Howard Shore, Blind Guardian's Nightfall in Middle Earth, and surely the musical stylings of a certain band would be drastically different, if existent at all, and this band is... Nightwish.

Now, where's Evisse?

Elennar Starfire · 08-24-2004, 07:53 PM

However, if anyone wants to debate whether or not HP is evil, I'm always game for a good PM discussion!

Now, back to the topic!

Orominuialwen · 09-05-2004, 08:58 PM

If it weren't for LotR, I probably wouldn't have ever met most of my friends. I'd hardly ever go online, and I'd be even worse at typing than I am now. I probably wouldn't be interested in sewing and costuming like I am, and I would have less incentive to practice my violin, without Howrd Shore's wonderful music to play.

alatar · 10-13-2005, 10:28 AM

Could be hallucinating, but think that someone once said something like if the gorilla did not exist, then surely we would have created it.

Guessing that if Professor Tolkien did not create Middle Earth, then someone would have filled the void with something similar - not an exact copy, yet satisfying the same need for a British fantasy mythology. Maybe elves would have been little creatures and goblins more friendly - dunno.

Something that I found scary it that (I think, again relying on a sub-par memory) Strider could have been named "Trotter." If that's how the final version went out, we would never have thought of Aragorn any other way. A major change for us now, but not enough to affect the timeline. You'd be as geeked out about Viggo being Trotter as you may have been when he was Strider.

So, anyway, the change in timelines is too far back for me to accurately see the consequences, but would guess that most of us would be here, now, discussing The Emperor of the Ring.

Bergil · 10-23-2005, 12:19 PM

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I would still hate Harry Potter as its EVIL! Its portrays Evil as good! Since when have sorcerers been good? Does not the Bible say that "a sorcerer must die!"? Besides, The 'Wizards' in Lotr were Mara, nothing to do with sorcery.
In fact, I'm ashamed to admit it, but it was my hatred of Harry Potter that led me to Tolkien.

<edited out, let's just say I made a rebuttal.>

Back on topic, I could always fall back to "Wheel Of Time" (if it existed, I don't know much about these zen things)

08-24-2004, 02:40 PM	#2
InklingElf Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 402	Off Topic Our points of views regarding Miss Rowling's Potter are not even beside the question posed my Morsul. While I agree very much with Goomba's views let us ALL refrain from imposing further opinionated statements pertaining Harry Potter. Many respects. Last edited by InklingElf; 08-24-2004 at 11:01 PM.

08-24-2004, 07:53 PM	#4
Elennar Starfire Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nowhere...now here Posts: 952	However, if anyone wants to debate whether or not HP is evil, I'm always game for a good PM discussion! Now, back to the topic! __________________ Don't let me die!

09-05-2004, 08:58 PM	#5
Orominuialwen Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2003 Location: Umbar, but before the corsairs took over. (Ave Maria University, FL, USA) Posts: 632	If it weren't for LotR, I probably wouldn't have ever met most of my friends. I'd hardly ever go online, and I'd be even worse at typing than I am now. I probably wouldn't be interested in sewing and costuming like I am, and I would have less incentive to practice my violin, without Howrd Shore's wonderful music to play. __________________ Gone for lentSeeyou at Easter! (And on Sundays too, maybe.)

10-13-2005, 10:28 AM	#6
alatar Doubting Dwimmerlaik Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Heaven's basement Posts: 2,466	Could be hallucinating, but think that someone once said something like if the gorilla did not exist, then surely we would have created it. Guessing that if Professor Tolkien did not create Middle Earth, then someone would have filled the void with something similar - not an exact copy, yet satisfying the same need for a British fantasy mythology. Maybe elves would have been little creatures and goblins more friendly - dunno. Something that I found scary it that (I think, again relying on a sub-par memory) Strider could have been named "Trotter." If that's how the final version went out, we would never have thought of Aragorn any other way. A major change for us now, but not enough to affect the timeline. You'd be as geeked out about Viggo being Trotter as you may have been when he was Strider. So, anyway, the change in timelines is too far back for me to accurately see the consequences, but would guess that most of us would be here, now, discussing The Emperor of the Ring. __________________ There is naught that you can do, other than to resist, with hope or without it.

08-24-2004, 04:08 PM	#3
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Thanks for saying what I was just about to post, InklingElf. The HP series are books. They're not evil. Maybe nasty little LotR attention-stealers, but not evil. (Actually I like HP, so whatever.) But if there was no LotR, there also would be a lack of a lot of good music, such as the composings of Howard Shore, Blind Guardian's Nightfall in Middle Earth, and surely the musical stylings of a certain band would be drastically different, if existent at all, and this band is... Nightwish. Now, where's Evisse?