Doom of the Noldor

[InklingElf]

It is said that the Avari were corrupted by Morgoth -- alot of them became orcs. As to why they became weary of the world -- heheh elves tend to do that alot. I don't think Illuvitar would doom his children needlesly Alchisiel.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I just don't understand why the Avari become weary of the world. (Alchisiel)

Men would dominate the world. The Quendi want status quo in Middle-earth preserved, as seen in Galadriel's use of Nenya in Lothlórien. Men, on the other hand, would change the world. It's partly due to Eru's gift . . .

Therefore [Ilúvatar] willed that the hearts of Men should seek beyond the world and should find no rest therein; but they should have a virtue to shape their life, amid the powers and chances of the world, beyond the Music of the Ainur, which is as fate to all things else; and of their operation everything should be, in form and in deed, completed, and the world fulfilled unto the last and smallest. (QS I)

[akhtene]

I just don't understand why the Avari become weary of the world. (Alchisiel)

Maybe it's living for so long in one place? Everyone wants a change.
What's more, the enchanting tales of a realm, the door to which has at last been opened.

[Alchisiel]

I've read the Akallabeth and I think I understand the weariness of the Elves now.

The Eldar, you say, are unpunished, and even those who rebelled do not die. Yet that is to them neither reward nor punishment, but the fullfillment of their being. They cannot escape, and are bound to this world, never to leave it for as long as it lasts, for its life is theirs. And you are punished for the rebellion of men, you say, in which you had small part, and so it is that you die. But that was not at first appointed for a punishment. Thus you escape, and leave the world, and are not bound to it, in hope or in weariness. Which of us therefore should envy the others?

Basically I understand it like this: The Eldar live for so long that the world becomes almost a torment for them or a weariness if you get my meaning. And that's why they go to the Undying Lands/Aman/Blessed Realm/Valinor because their weariness can be lessened there. Do I have it?

[NightKnight]

Firstly, I have to answer the Thingol/Doriath question. It says specifically in Silm. that it was when he asked Beren to bring back the Silmaril that Doriath fell under the doom.

The sindar were cursed because they had contact with the noldor, and the same goes for the edain. The avari, well... wouldn't you be tired after living for 100,000 years?

[Voralphion]

All elves faded but it wasn't due to the doom of the noldor. Over time the fea or spirit of the elves consumed their hroar or body. This was because of a weakness of the body due to the general marring of Arda by Melkor. The elves were able to pospone this fading in Aman due to the different passage of time there. If any elf remained in Middle Earth they would fade. The elves in ME became weary of the world due to all the death there, while they remained unchanged all other living creatures would die. This after a while is depressing and so they become weary of the world.

[Encaitare]

Over time the fea or spirit of the elves consumed their hroar or body.

--Voralphion

Really? Could you tell me where you found this information, so I can read up on it?

Something else that is interesting is that the Doom of the Noldor does not seem to be limited to Elves. The Silm says that Huan too fell under this doom because he faithfully served one of Feanor's sons.

Now the chief of the wolfhounds that followed Celegorm was named Huan. He was not born in Middle-earth, but came from the Blessed Realm; for Orome had given him to Celegorm long ago in Valinor, and there he had followed the horn of his master, before evil came. Huan followed Celegorm into exile, and was faithful; and thus he too came under the doom of woe set upon the Noldor, and it was decreed that he should meet death, but not until he encountered the mightiest wolf that would ever walk the world. [Italics are mine.]