Are these the fifty you would have chosen? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

mark12_30 · 08-03-2004, 10:31 AM

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26) Pauline Baynes - The illustrator of the original Hobbit.

Eh??? *blinks* Am I missing something?

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She seems to be the only person Tolkien trusted to illustrate his tales faithfully.

....that much I believe.

Child of the 7th Age · 08-03-2004, 02:35 PM

I crawled into bed yesterday with the summer flu and am just crawling out again, a bit wobbly but on my feet. I was surprised to see that so much had happened here.

Actually, that sounds like a good idea: to post threads that allow people to put up their own lists, and to make the focus of these lists more precise than the one on the One Ring. I do agree that we need more than one list, and I would also suggest that each list have no more than six to ten spots in ranked order (depending on the list in question). Might as well put people's feet to the fire!

How about this for the lists?

most important works which inspired or influenced the writing of LotR/the Legendarium (per Bethberry)
those individuals who had the most decisive personal impact on Tolkien in terms of his writings and the creation of Middle-earth
those creators and scholars who, following in Tolkien's footsteps, have helped us to better understand the author and his works (per Bethberry but slightly altered).

How does this sound? The third one really covers two angles and I'm not sure if it should be split.

I'll probably do this late Wednesday or Thursday, after I recover from the flu and finish working on some very overdue RPG posts. But I'll check back in to see if folks have any more suggestions.

Of couse, when I post the thread, I would also include my own suggestions. People are welcome to take pot shots--that is, at the list, hopefully not at me! I am curious how much concensus there will be.

Diamond18 · 08-03-2004, 03:45 PM

Ha! With the "anything goes" nature of that TORN list (even including the TORN administrators) I should write a nasty email to "Gamgee" claiming that it is a travesty to have left "Ron Kittle" off the list. Truly, how many people have come to the books through the movies but only developed an obsessive love and deeper understanding by visiting the Barrow Downs? Eh? Eh?

mark12_30 · 08-03-2004, 07:56 PM

Ron??? His first name's Ron???

Great alias. Who'd guess we were talking about the in-famous Barrow-Wight? Maybe we'll crash the Google Server.

Child of the 7th Age · 08-05-2004, 05:29 PM

Ahem....this is taking a great deal longer than I expected.

Serves me right!

I know I could just plop down fifteen to twenty names split into three lists with no thought, but somehow that doesn't seem right.

I am working on it and will resurface sooner or later.

***Sharkû*** · 08-05-2004, 06:13 PM

It's an off topic, unimportant, and ill-worded post, but the poet of Crist 'of Cynewulf' wasn't anonymous... since it was rather Crist _by Cynewulf.
"Cynewulf, an Anglo-Saxon poet who lived in Northumbria or Mercia, flourished circa 750. Four poems can be definitely ascribed to him on the basis of runic 'signatures' in the text of the poems, making him, with Caedmon, one of only two named Anglo-Saxon poets. The four poems, all Christian narratives, are Elene, Crist, Juliana and The Fates of the Apostles." (from Wikipedia.org )

Legolas · 08-08-2004, 02:54 PM

New list [Edit: in completely random order.]!

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In a list of this type, I honestly think there is no one "expert" who could do it all. It would be hard to find one person who was equally knowledgable in all these different aspects of Tolkien: Elvish language, art, cinema, biography, music, popular culture and, of course, the writings.

[Edit: in completely random order.]

1. Legolas
2. Sharku

08-03-2004, 02:35 PM	#2
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	I crawled into bed yesterday with the summer flu and am just crawling out again, a bit wobbly but on my feet. I was surprised to see that so much had happened here. Actually, that sounds like a good idea: to post threads that allow people to put up their own lists, and to make the focus of these lists more precise than the one on the One Ring. I do agree that we need more than one list, and I would also suggest that each list have no more than six to ten spots in ranked order (depending on the list in question). Might as well put people's feet to the fire! How about this for the lists? most important works which inspired or influenced the writing of LotR/the Legendarium (per Bethberry) those individuals who had the most decisive personal impact on Tolkien in terms of his writings and the creation of Middle-earth those creators and scholars who, following in Tolkien's footsteps, have helped us to better understand the author and his works (per Bethberry but slightly altered). How does this sound? The third one really covers two angles and I'm not sure if it should be split. I'll probably do this late Wednesday or Thursday, after I recover from the flu and finish working on some very overdue RPG posts. But I'll check back in to see if folks have any more suggestions. Of couse, when I post the thread, I would also include my own suggestions. People are welcome to take pot shots--that is, at the list, hopefully not at me! I am curious how much concensus there will be. __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

08-03-2004, 03:45 PM	#3
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Ha! With the "anything goes" nature of that TORN list (even including the TORN administrators) I should write a nasty email to "Gamgee" claiming that it is a travesty to have left "Ron Kittle" off the list. Truly, how many people have come to the books through the movies but only developed an obsessive love and deeper understanding by visiting the Barrow Downs? Eh? Eh? __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

08-03-2004, 07:56 PM	#4
mark12_30 Stormdancer of Doom Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Elvish singing is not a thing to miss, in June under the stars Posts: 4,349	Ron??? His first name's Ron??? Great alias. Who'd guess we were talking about the in-famous Barrow-Wight? Maybe we'll crash the Google Server. __________________ ...down to the water to see the elves dance and sing upon the midsummer's eve.

08-05-2004, 05:29 PM	#5
Child of the 7th Age Spirit of the Lonely Star Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 5,133	Ahem....this is taking a great deal longer than I expected. Serves me right! I know I could just plop down fifteen to twenty names split into three lists with no thought, but somehow that doesn't seem right. I am working on it and will resurface sooner or later. __________________ Multitasking women are never too busy to vote.

08-05-2004, 06:13 PM	#6
*Sharkû* Hungry Ghoul Join Date: Jun 2000 Posts: 1,719	It's an off topic, unimportant, and ill-worded post, but the poet of Crist 'of Cynewulf' wasn't anonymous... since it was rather Crist _by Cynewulf. "Cynewulf, an Anglo-Saxon poet who lived in Northumbria or Mercia, flourished circa 750. Four poems can be definitely ascribed to him on the basis of runic 'signatures' in the text of the poems, making him, with Caedmon, one of only two named Anglo-Saxon poets. The four poems, all Christian narratives, are Elene, Crist, Juliana and The Fates of the Apostles." (from Wikipedia.org )