Annoying Amateurs - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Encaitare · 08-02-2004, 08:43 PM

Please do use it as an Official Amateur Test, and thus we may determine within moments who knows "lotr cannon" and who doesn't. I found her while browsing fanfiction.net, and was immediately so enraged by her lack of skill at anything that I felt compelled to send it to all my friends to bash. A lot of people reported her because of her blatant errors and general lousiness and the admins took it down and I believe suspended her account as well ::cackles with no remorse whatsoever::

I'm sure there are more bad bad bad writers like her but I haven't checked out ff.net recently.

And they most certainly did meet the Barrow-wight, although if the creator of the list had presented the fool writer (whose name was, incidentally, iloveleggy -- gee, what does that tell you?) with FOUR non-movie characters (Tom, Golderry, Gildor, and the Wight), I think her brain would have exploded from all the canon.

Morsul the Dark · 08-02-2004, 08:53 PM

First off I feel utterly stupid I must have forgotten the entire book between Farmer Maggot and Bree because somehow I placed those events after (Uh-Duh) "smacs self" don't worry such idiocy i try to keep at a minimum I do however have a question what is canon? is it just another word for trivia?

Encaitare · 08-02-2004, 09:03 PM

Canon is a term used among fanfiction writers which basically means what really happened in the original story. A fanfiction which follows the original plot line without making big changes is canon; one that deviates from the original is non-canon, or Alternate Universe.

Morsul the Dark · 08-02-2004, 09:07 PM

I see thank you very much for that explanation.

I sadly prefer non-canon for bad guys

but for good guys i have good canon

Encaitare · 08-02-2004, 09:14 PM

Non-canon has its place too... it's what keeps the fanfiction world interesting!

Estel'sAngel · 09-27-2004, 12:40 PM

I know earlier that someone mentioned the Trival Pursuit game. I'm trying so hard to get that game. My friends and mother have agreed to play with me if I ever get it. Key word being...IF. I have yet to see it giftwrapped on my birthday or Christmas.

But yeah...my mom knows enough about LOTR to know not bet with me. All my friends do the same. They treat me like an expert, while I'm running around looking up answers to their questions on boards like these! SHH!!!

But I do tell them where I get the info from. I won't even pretend to be an expert on LOTR. There's too much to know about it and my poor little human mind can't contain all that glorious information. Not with school going on.

My sister (older by 17 months) would be at the level of seeing on movie and NOT liking it. She didn't hate it, she just didn't understand what was going on. So Mom and I had to explain it to her. Then she seemed to get frustrated that I knew more than she did about LOTR. So I pointed out what she did better than me and that made her feel better. But after that, Mom and I didn't drag her to see any more LOTR movies. It was always just us, then family, then I saw it with friends.

So for sure there are different levels of understanding out there for people about the books and movies. My friends are "experts" on the movie (somehow they count me in there as well.) They view me and my mom as the "book experts". And then they figure everybody else knows a little bit. They've tried to read the books but didn't like it or just didn't finish, while I've been reading them once a year since the 6th grade (sophomore in college now for a time frame). So it does vary for each person. If it didn't, then this would be a very boring world with no room for discussions and debates about Tolkien's world, cause we'd all understand it. And that would be boring, indeed.

Sapphire_Flame · 09-27-2004, 05:26 PM

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So it does vary for each person. If it didn't, then this would be a very boring world with no room for discussions and debates about Tolkien's world, cause we'd all understand it. And that would be boring, indeed.

*nod nod* I shall definitely agree with that. Very well said, Angel.

Abedithon le,

~ Saphy ~

08-02-2004, 08:53 PM	#2
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	First off I feel utterly stupid I must have forgotten the entire book between Farmer Maggot and Bree because somehow I placed those events after (Uh-Duh) "smacs self" don't worry such idiocy i try to keep at a minimum I do however have a question what is canon? is it just another word for trivia? __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

08-02-2004, 09:07 PM	#4
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	I see thank you very much for that explanation. I sadly prefer non-canon for bad guys but for good guys i have good canon __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

09-27-2004, 12:40 PM	#6
Estel'sAngel Newly Deceased Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: California and Texas Posts: 10	I know earlier that someone mentioned the Trival Pursuit game. I'm trying so hard to get that game. My friends and mother have agreed to play with me if I ever get it. Key word being...IF. I have yet to see it giftwrapped on my birthday or Christmas. But yeah...my mom knows enough about LOTR to know not bet with me. All my friends do the same. They treat me like an expert, while I'm running around looking up answers to their questions on boards like these! SHH!!! But I do tell them where I get the info from. I won't even pretend to be an expert on LOTR. There's too much to know about it and my poor little human mind can't contain all that glorious information. Not with school going on. My sister (older by 17 months) would be at the level of seeing on movie and NOT liking it. She didn't hate it, she just didn't understand what was going on. So Mom and I had to explain it to her. Then she seemed to get frustrated that I knew more than she did about LOTR. So I pointed out what she did better than me and that made her feel better. But after that, Mom and I didn't drag her to see any more LOTR movies. It was always just us, then family, then I saw it with friends. So for sure there are different levels of understanding out there for people about the books and movies. My friends are "experts" on the movie (somehow they count me in there as well.) They view me and my mom as the "book experts". And then they figure everybody else knows a little bit. They've tried to read the books but didn't like it or just didn't finish, while I've been reading them once a year since the 6th grade (sophomore in college now for a time frame). So it does vary for each person. If it didn't, then this would be a very boring world with no room for discussions and debates about Tolkien's world, cause we'd all understand it. And that would be boring, indeed. __________________ All that is gold does not glitter, Not all those who wander are lost;

08-02-2004, 08:43 PM	#1
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Please do use it as an Official Amateur Test, and thus we may determine within moments who knows "lotr cannon" and who doesn't. I found her while browsing fanfiction.net, and was immediately so enraged by her lack of skill at anything that I felt compelled to send it to all my friends to bash. A lot of people reported her because of her blatant errors and general lousiness and the admins took it down and I believe suspended her account as well ::cackles with no remorse whatsoever:: I'm sure there are more bad bad bad writers like her but I haven't checked out ff.net recently. And they most certainly did meet the Barrow-wight, although if the creator of the list had presented the fool writer (whose name was, incidentally, iloveleggy -- gee, what does that tell you?) with FOUR non-movie characters (Tom, Golderry, Gildor, and the Wight), I think her brain would have exploded from all the canon.

08-02-2004, 09:03 PM	#3
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Canon is a term used among fanfiction writers which basically means what really happened in the original story. A fanfiction which follows the original plot line without making big changes is canon; one that deviates from the original is non-canon, or Alternate Universe.

08-02-2004, 09:14 PM	#5
Encaitare Bittersweet Symphony Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: On the jolly starship Enterprise Posts: 1,814	Non-canon has its place too... it's what keeps the fanfiction world interesting!