Saruman Ring-maker - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Vanya · 07-31-2004, 09:14 AM

This Quote is alsi interesting, since it tells about Saruman's abbilities:

“Gandalf says of the 'fell captain of the Nine' that he was 'a great king of old'; and of Saruman he
says:

... For Saruman the White is, as some of you know, the greatest
of my craft, and was the leader in the White Council.... But
Saruman long studied the arts of the Enemy, and was thus often
able to defeat him; and the lore of rings was one of his chief
studies. He knew much of the history [of the rings of power >]
of the Nine Rings and the Seven, and somewhat even of the
Three and the One; and it was at one time rumoured that he had come near the secret of their making.”

NEAR, yes, but it seems that he secretly did make a breakthrough.

And, inconsistance in use of term RING MAKER in Council of Elrond, and complete lack of it later on, indicates that maybe it was an idea abbandoned on the way.

How come that, when Gandalf broke Saruman's staff, he didn't take, or mention his ring (even in sarcastic way?)?

07-31-2004, 09:14 AM	#12
Vanya Animated Skeleton Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Belgrade Posts: 43	This Quote is alsi interesting, since it tells about Saruman's abbilities: “Gandalf says of the 'fell captain of the Nine' that he was 'a great king of old'; and of Saruman he says: ... For Saruman the White is, as some of you know, the greatest of my craft, and was the leader in the White Council.... But Saruman long studied the arts of the Enemy, and was thus often able to defeat him; and the lore of rings was one of his chief studies. He knew much of the history [of the rings of power >] of the Nine Rings and the Seven, and somewhat even of the Three and the One; and it was at one time rumoured that he had come near the secret of their making.” NEAR, yes, but it seems that he secretly did make a breakthrough. And, inconsistance in use of term RING MAKER in Council of Elrond, and complete lack of it later on, indicates that maybe it was an idea abbandoned on the way. How come that, when Gandalf broke Saruman's staff, he didn't take, or mention his ring (even in sarcastic way?)?