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I agree with you, that Melian was indeed special. But her 'specialness' was a specialness of her spirit, her fea, and not of her body, which was Elvish. So, I stay with my opinion, that her genes were also Elvish and hence her blood also.
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But what of Luthien's magic? She was able to weave a sleep-spell, and disguise herself as a bat and Beren as a wolf. Was this ability normal for elves? Or was it from Melian?
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Many elves seem to have had magic abilities, even those who didn't have a maia as mother. Finrod disguised himself and his company as orcs, Galadriel captured light in a bottle etc. So Luthien's magic talents don't have to come from Melian.
Melian did take a physical form, but is it stated somewhere that it was an elvish body (can't remember, and I haven't got Silm here)? Remember, the Valar took physical forms as well, and maybe that's what Melian did. If so, her descendants have maia-blood in them. I did a calculation once, and found out that Arwen has 1/16 maia-blood. I posted it somewhere in the ME Mirth forum, if you're interested.
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If I may...
Earendilyon, you say that in taking the form of an Elf, Melian's body became that of an Elf. However, her genes would still be those of a Maia. She was still Maia, just in Elvish form.
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Maybe I do take it a little too literally, on purpose, to make clear this difference between fea and hroa and between discarnate and incarnate. I do agree (of course!) with Tolkien when he says that Dior was of threefold race, but only his fea was, not his hroa: his fea descended from a Maia, from Elves, and from Men; his hroa from Elves and Men, because there is no such thing as a Maiar hroa.
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